Difference between “Projector” & “Diamond cut” Headlights???

20th february 2006, 17:44   #1

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hey there difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights??? ,
i have a/the question about headlight beam pattern. i think pattern any way.
what is the difference between the “projector” style and the “diamond cut” style of replacement headlights??? difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights??? if possible i’d like someone who really knows….if not images of either kind would work too. difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights??? i’ve “heard” differences, but no one i’ve run into really knows.

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20th february 2006, 17:53   #2

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20th february 2006, 17:56   #3

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so the “projector” headlights on…oh, ebay aren’t real projectors?????
they look real similar to the diamond cut ones….. difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights???

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20th february 2006, 18:14   #4

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those diamond-cut lights are crap. ask me how i know…

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20th february 2006, 21:41   #5

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buy you some real cibie e-codes if you really want to see better.

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20th february 2006, 22:03   #6

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originally posted by formula_ron

those diamond-cut lights are crap. ask me how i know…

how do you know?

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21st february 2006, 10:50   #7

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catman,
i went looking for cibie using google, ebay, and the marketplace here. not much luck. where did you get yours?
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21st february 2006, 13:36   #8

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i finally found a good link with a few diagrams of reflectors vs. projectors.

http://www.mvlc.info/glossary.html

i’ve never heard of these diamond cut headlamps. basically, there’s two types of lamps: reflectors and projectors. hid falls into the projector catagory (usually) though they also have hid highbeams which are usually reflectors (but not always). it’s just how you get the light from the bulb out of the housing and onto the street. asking the difference between “projector and diamond cut” is akin to asking the difference between a 5 speed transmission and falken azenis tires.

my original set of cibies came from serious auto. i don’t know if they’re still selling stuff. i liked them, but they bounced around quite a lot. i upgraded to the hella 90mm units.

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21st february 2006, 14:56   #9

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cool link. thanks. i’m some familiar with lighting in other applications, but couldn’t find much on these “styles”.

thanks again for the link! difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights???

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21st february 2006, 17:16   #10

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catman,
i went looking for cibie using google, ebay, and the marketplace here. not much luck. where did you get yours?
thanks!

http://www.cibieusa.com/cibie_main_frameset.htm

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21st february 2006, 17:24   #11

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hella e-codes from hella source have quite a following, and this vendor gives 10% off if you mention miata.net when you order.

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21st february 2006, 18:57   #12

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hella e-codes from hella source have quite a following, and this vendor gives 10% off if you mention miata.net when you order.

hella’s have a great following because most people have not tried cibies. the hella’s are a huge improvement over sealed beams …but the cibies are better. as long as i can get cibies i’ll never buy another set of hella’s.

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22nd february 2006, 09:02   #13

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cool deal. difference between "projector" & "diamond cut" headlights???
thanks for the link catman!

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22nd february 2006, 10:07   #14

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i had the diamond cuts, the beam was focused all wrong, it made high and low beam backwards. they cracked in a month and then i swapped in some hella e-codes.

i can see great now, well worthe the money.

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26th february 2006, 00:11   #15

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anyone ever put those old tri-pod style lucas p700 lamps in? you know, the vintage style?

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27th february 2006, 08:30   #16

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how about freeform headlamps. i got a set here; pretty good at lighting up the road, and they do update the car quite cheaply. raybrigs are probably the gold standard, but they are for rhd cars only.

here’s a lhd alternative, from trucklite:

http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/headlights/index.html

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27th february 2006, 08:52   #17

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originally posted by firedog25

anyone ever put those old tri-pod style lucas p700 lamps in? you know, the vintage style?

looks killer on pit crew nose conversios … you can get halogen style lucas p700 tripod replica lamps too …

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27th february 2006, 20:23   #18

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most of the time, the lights are down and hidden away. why spend money on a light that looks “good”, as opposed to one that actually lights the road. a lot of these lucas replicas are pretty faithful to the original 40-50 year old lighting technology. seems a be retro(grade) to me. next we’ll be converting the electrics to 6v, and dumping the alternator for a dynamo.

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28th february 2006, 23:00   #19

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originally posted by revlimiter

i finally found a good link with a few diagrams of reflectors vs. projectors.

http://www.mvlc.info/glossary.html

i’ve never heard of these diamond cut headlamps. basically, there’s two types of lamps: reflectors and projectors. hid falls into the projector catagory (usually) though they also have hid highbeams which are usually reflectors (but not always). it’s just how you get the light from the bulb out of the housing and onto the street. asking the difference between “projector and diamond cut” is akin to asking the difference between a 5 speed transmission and falken azenis tires.

my original set of cibies came from serious auto. i don’t know if they’re still selling stuff. i liked them, but they bounced around quite a lot. i upgraded to the hella 90mm units.

high intensity discharge lighting does not always fall under projector lighting. you can have halogen projectors and hid projectors. you can also have halogen reflectors and hid reflectors. ever seen the lexus rx300, acura 3.2tl (not the current tl), acura 3.2cl, acura 3.5rl, mercedes’ entire line of vehicles, etc. they all use hid reflectors. i’ve actually never heard of a car company producing a vehicle with hid high beams. that would cause premature failure of the ballasts and bulbs.

also, asking the difference between reflector and projector lighting is a common question, and not any different from “which [insert general product] is the best” types of questions. each has their own benefits.

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30th april 2007, 20:13   #20

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good info thanks…

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2nd may 2007, 16:35   #21

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originally posted by firedog25

anyone ever put those old tri-pod style lucas p700 lamps in? you know, the vintage style?

man i really wanted a set for my old mg, but at the time they were more expensive than the car was worth! i really miss that old thing, but sure was not very reliable. now if i could add that “old british musty smell” wonder if they sell a car freshener with that oder.

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2nd may 2007, 19:56   #22

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originally posted by infinite012

i’ve actually never heard of a car company producing a vehicle with hid high beams. that would cause premature failure of the ballasts and bulbs.

then you haven’t looked closely at new mercedes, dodge viper, or post-2007 chrysler pacificas just to name a few examples. these utilize bixenon technology (solenoid activated shutter gives low and high beam) and does not cause premature failure of the ballast or bulb. hella introduced the technology at mercedes in the early 90’s.

and while reflector hids do exist, they pale (no pun intended) in comparison to projectors for glare control and beam pattern smoothness.

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