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a12rag Doe anyone know if there is a “ heavier duty ” patrol package rotor for the presence on the AWD cars ?

Thanks,

Mark

wolfmann21 far as i know, the rotor is the like RT rotor, it was the pads that were different, i “ police ”

then again, i do n’t have an AWD, thus take that with a granulate of salt lol
MY – HEMI The rotors on the patrol package cars are 13.6 up front and 13.8 on back .
CT-MSRT The rotors on the patrol box cars are 13.6 up front and 13.8 on back.

wyrd. smaller rotor up front ? i estimate one do n’t know much about the patrol specification but that ‘s odd to me since the front man brakes do more oeuvre to stop a cable car .
MY – HEMI Yeah, but I have the booklet right in front of me tho …

” Police-Specific Brake System

For immediate stopping world power, Charger is equipped with and impressive brake system that is singular to police vehicles and includes :

– high operation bracken pads – front & rear
– heavy-duty four-wheel phonograph record brakes with ABS
– 13.6×1.1-inch vent front man rotors
– 13.8×1.0-inch vent rear rotors
– Modified raise caliper
– Larger master cylinder

The standard antilock brake system – with singular ABS calibration – increases vehicle see and constancy under extreme brake conditions. Charger is besides equipped with Brake Assist. This standard have helps apply utmost braking might in hand brake situations. ”

Maybe it would use the rear more in “ hand brake situations ” ?
CT-MSRT oh, one was n’t doubting you. I just found the design a piece weird. possibly since cruisers are normally loaded with extra equipment in the trunk the larger buttocks brakes can get more work done .
MY – HEMI : ) I know Mike : ) I had thought it was curious besides and had flush flopped them around when giving out the size this weekend, cashbox Chuck said that the bigger ones were on the back and not the front …

Looked at the booklet when I got home and yup, bigger on back and smaller up front …
wolfmann21 one blame Alzheimers … you even mentioned that at the GTA meet didnt ya ? lol
RoadRashedRT i blame Alzheimers … you even mentioned that at the GTA meet didnt ya ? lol

I would blame something else … ..shhhhh : mrgreen :
a12rag Thanks guys. .. I checked with the parts dept at the franchise and was told that the AWD brakes are the same as the operation brakes for a RWD ? ? ? ? ?. .. .
kapalczynski Thanks guys. .. I checked with the parts dept at the franchise and was told that the AWD brakes are the lapp as the operation brakes for a RWD ? ? ? ? ?. .. .

Yes, the RWD performance pkg front brakes are the same as the AWD battlefront brakes and the lapp as the patrol pkg front brakes. The RWD performance pkg adn AWD back are the like. The Police has larger rotors, lapp calipers, and caliper brackets are larger to move the caliper out and accomidate the larger rotor. Police rear rotor is roughly 13-3/4 ” diameter, same pad size/shape ( though different brake compound was available for the police pkg ) .
kapalczynski Yeah, but I have the booklet right in front of me tho …

” Police-Specific Brake System

For quick stopping might, Charger is equipped with and impressive brake system that is alone to police vehicles and includes :

Brake pkg information :

OK, So I searched the forum and could n’t find anyone w/AWD that has done the BR8 brake package ( dodge option code for the patrol brakes ).

I have been doing ALOT of inquiry on the brakes for the AWD vs the RWD in the different models. It looks like we may be able to upgrade to the police brake apparatus. I can only find a difference of the rear rotor and rear caliper bracket between the two brake systems :

Police RWD – BR8
R/T AWD – BR5
R/T/Daytona RWD – BR5

It seems one can switch the rear rotors and caliper brackets to the BR8 contribution numbers and get a larger raise rotor for optimize cool back there adn better brake bias.

Heres my fill based on the information I have so far, I ‘ll use your booklet :

– high performance bracken pads – front & rear – brake intensify is different – Dodge tried several compounds for the patrol after complaints from the officers.
– heavy-duty four-wheel magnetic disk brakes with ABS – well yea … lol
– 13.6×1.1-inch vent front rotors – R/t performance and AWD R/T rotor
– 13.8×1.0-inch vented rear rotors – Police pkg specific
– Modified rear caliper – larger caliper bracket to accomidate the rotor
– bombastic master cylinder – actually ? The franchise I checked with … they said there was “ w/ stability control and w/o ” for the master cylinder options. only 2 different ones available and we about all have the grip control option. I will check into this again, possibly there is a 3rd one ?

” with unique ABS calibration ” – the raise rotor being larger gives slightly more raise brake bias and better rear cool, obviously the ABS is calibrated for this … or maybe it is calibrated for less front end dive and weight transportation if the police pkg has better shocks/struts ?
kapalczynski weird. smaller rotor up front ? i estimate iodine do n’t know much about the police specification but that ‘s odd to me since the front brakes do more make to stop a car.

This was a modification to the existing brakes. Larger rotor, but same size embroider. Allows slenderly more rear bias and better rear cooling. A larger back pad would have achieved the bias change, or different proportion valve, but that would have made them have to create a newly caliper rather of using the previous one with a new bracket or redesign & test the bracken bias with a newfangled proportion valve ( might actually be contribution of the headmaster cylinder, not sure ). With the larger rotor the experience more brake and cooling to match the larger brake imput and it was CHEAPER. lol
MY – HEMI Brake pkg information :
“ with alone ABS calibration ” – the back rotor being larger gives slenderly more back bracken diagonal and better rear cool, apparently the ABS is calibrated for this … or maybe it is calibrated for less front conclusion honkytonk and weight transfer if the patrol pkg has better shocks/struts ?

I was n’t quite indisputable on this either, but figured it was along the like lines as my “ tweaked ” calculator programming that comes along with the Police Package. I know I have the 3 stage stability program that comes on the SRT ‘s ( 2006-2008 ? ). There is absolutely no dive when stomping on the brakes and no lean at all around corners/on/off ramps.

On the master cylinder, I think that the Police Packages have the lapp one as the SRT ‘s angstrom well ( but do n’t quote me on that. I would have to get in touch with my parts guy at the principal on that one to be surely. ) .
TTMR Might try this when I step up to SRT rotors up front .
Ron380 Thanks for all the information. about these ! Nice to know the AWD package has even more upgrades than we thought ! : thumbs_u :
a12rag therefore for best stopping ability then with a “ stock ” AWD LX :

1 ) Front rotors – performance/police, which are Standard on AWD

2 ) Front pads – change to police specification pads

If you want to go promote, then :

3 ) Rear rotors – change to police specification rotors

4 ) above change requires newfangled caliper bracket

5 ) rise pads- change to police specification pads

Guess I am checking with my dealer tomorrow. .. .

Thanks,

Mark
kapalczynski therefore for best stopping ability then with a “ stock ” AWD LX :

1 ) Front rotors – performance/police, which are Standard on AWD

2 ) Front pads – change to police specification pads

If you want to go far, then :

3 ) Rear rotors – change to police specification rotors

4 ) above change requires newfangled caliper bracket

5 ) rear pads- change to police specification pads

Guess I am checking with my dealer tomorrow. .. .

Thanks,

Mark

Be warned the franchise may not know what pads to give you since there are respective compounds offered by Dodge accross the years for physically the like launching pad. They base the part numbers of the year of the car and unfortunately you ca n’t merely say ” police pads off of a 09 charger please ”. You need a VIN number from the police frame-up.

Anyway, arsenic far as recommendations for pads I would go EBC redstuff or yellowstuff for a good street and or race pad. Redstuff are very little brake debris much better than sprout grip, yellowstuff are plenty of dust, but AMAZING stopping exponent flush hot.

I presently have a set of yellowstuff waiting to go on. I have the 2 patrol rotors, but am waiting on the caliper brackets to ship out. : ( I will report binding soon. : )
Gabe kapalczynski,

Great job so far with this research man : thumbs_u : : thumbs_u : … beans to you

Let us know for certain how it all works out for ya … I went through 3 OEM front rotor sets and 2 rears before going to R1Concepts slotted frt rotors which I still managed to warp, and now I have about 13k miles on my slotted/cross-drilled R1 ‘s ( with Hawk ceramic pads ) and still no warpage issues, finally ! ! lol

But if OEM parts will help with this, then why not ? : )
goodeforu Beans to you for all the inquiry and have been following this ribbon for some fourth dimension, are you going to post contribution numbers soon ?

: popcorn :
MattRMagnum You need a VIN number from the patrol setup.
I do n’t know if you had any ideas on this, but I ‘d suggest a site that tailors to wrecked vehicles ( www.erepairables.com ) and snag a vin from one of the wrecked bull chargers ( there ‘s normally at least one ) on there .
MY – HEMI You may pm me and I will get you the # you need …
kapalczynski Beans to you for all the research and have been following this thread for some time, are you going to post separate numbers soon ?

: popcorn :

Police software ( BR8 ) partially # ‘s :

Rear caliper bracket – 5175065AA – $ 72.45 ea from moparonlineparts.com + transportation ( OEM is only source I know of )
Rear rotor – 4779438AB – $ 85.10 ea + shipping from moparonlineparts.com ( 43151 – $ 75.99 ea -cheapest source is from autozone w/2 class warranty – free embark from local anesthetic AZ store )

Brake pad I would recommend in club of performance :

EBC yellowstuff brake pads – Pros : better than factory cold operation, AMAZING hot performance, track or street pad, long life ; Cons : alot of bracken dust/occasionally some noise, expensive.
EBC Redstuff brake pads – Pros : factory cold performance, better than factory hot performance, very little bracken dust ; Cons : not a traverse embroider, expensive.
Autozone Duralast Gold – Pros : Lifetime guarantee including wear ( semitrailer metallic with copper compound ), better than factory cold and hot, low debris, life guarantee, average price ; Cons : not ampere dear as redstuff, not a track pad.

*note* On the duralast gold brake pads ensure you can see copper flakes in the pad material. They have recently changed their compounds and the regular Duralast normally do not have the bull anymore, but the Duralast Gold does. Do not buy Valucraft !

**Disclaimer** Brakes are one of the few things I recommend from autozone and I DO NOT promote them at all due to them screwing me on a CV axle that came appart ( axel clamp design was unlike than OEM and not blush enough to not rub during suspension travel ), ripped out a wiring harness, about completely rubbed through a brake line on my corvette and not accepting any damages other than gave me money back for the axle. This was industry defect, not any kind of installation erroneousness.

I avoid supporting Autozone a much as possible due to their zone coach pissing on me in the way he did during this position.

All the same they have good brakes and great brake warranties.

– cross off
kapalczynski *UPDATE*

Picked up Autozone rotors nowadays.
Police pkg caliper brackets shipped out today. Should have them soon. : )
atwong1 kapalczynski, beans to you for the inquiry. This will be my following mod .
kapalczynski kapalczynski, beans to you for the research. This will be my next mod.

No Prob. Glad to share research. Like your batmobile btw. : )
MiniSotaMag I had issues with the stock and heavy duty patrol rotors ( from Autozone ). After warping 3 sets of front rotors I decided to go with the EBC slotted rotors and the redstuff pads front and buttocks. I noticed an immediate increase in stopping baron from street speeds angstrom well as 150mph+. besides with all the rain here in Oklahoma recently and the flood I had to drive through several streets that had over 20 inches of urine on them the brakes were soaked but when I needed to use them they worked flawlesly. Im sure due to the slot airfoil shedding the water system faster than stock rotors .
kapalczynski *UPDATE*

Picked up Autozone rotors today.
Police pkg caliper brackets shipped out today. Should have them soon. : )

**UPDATE**

Everything is here now. I good got spinal column from vacation, I will attempt facility tomorrow if I have everything I need and do n’t need to regulate anything else. Fingers crossed and excited. : D

I ‘ll besides take pics of factory rotor volt police back rotors side by side and caliper bracket differences side by side for you all. : )

– scratch
BRJBRNRR Tried Autozone duralast gold rotors and ceramic pads and warped them in a short circuit period of time. They refunded my money on the rotors to buy their dangerous duty rotors. The box on the severe duty rotors says they are for persuit and evanesce vehicles. Have n’t had them long adequate to tell how these are going to work. The severe duty rotors were $ 120 each .
MiniSotaMag I had the SD rotors on my car and they warped the first time i had to slow down fast from turn 130mph on the expressway .
Kamakazie2 **UPDATE**

Everything is here nowadays. I barely got back from vacation, I will attempt facility tomorrow if I have everything I need and do n’t need to holy order anything else. Fingers crossed and excited. : D

I ‘ll besides take pics of factory rotor vanadium patrol rear rotors side by side and caliper bracket differences side by side for you all. : )

– Mark

Dying to see what it looks like and how it works.

Does anyone know if we need to change anything in the ecu to take advantage of these new pads ? ? like bias adjustment or ABS adjustment ?
kapalczynski : d : d : d : five hundred : d : five hundred : d That is all one can say …

I fair completed the trade and took her for a drive. With the police frame-up and EBC yellow stuff, brakes are now approaching the srt8 brembos in feel, not quite there, but absolutely fantastic break. For the price, I am very happy ( ~ $ 300 for brackets and rotors, ~ $ 200 for front and rear EBC pad ).

Hard to tell where brake diagonal is with the AWD having everything being connected, but seemed actually close to where it should be. This will give more rear bias than factory, but did n’t seem to break the rears loose before the fronts so it should improve breaking that way besides. I have coilovers with FIRM shocks so there is less slant xfer to the front and the fronts should lock up easier anyhow, this frame-up should lone help rejoinder that.

All in all the fronts even lock up before the rears precisely as factory setup did sol it should be safe bracken bias. I can definately feel the remainder with more rear brake the car brakes different … much better, seemed more flush, stoped bang-up. : )

I went with EBC Yellowstuff as discussed earlier so I can not give all citation to police frame-up. I took tonz of pics of the initiation work, but my wife is presently asleep in our room that has the cable to my camera … will post all pics tomorrow.

I did run into a few glitches that were easily solved :

# 1 The newfangled caliper brackets did not come with the rubber dust boots for the caliper guide pins installed. I had to figure out a way to get them out of the factory caliper brackets w/o damaging them and install them in the new brackets ( or not install them tonite and order the parts … bah, forget that, had to make it happen tonite. : ) ). I would HIGHLY recommend fair buying raw guide peg dirt seals as I ‘m indisputable they will be brassy and I just did not realize until initiation I would need them.

# 2 The EBC pads were a fiddling besides chummy to fit ( with the new rotor being a tad chummy and possibly EBC making a tad thick embroider than factory ? ? ? or possibly Police pad is thinnner ? ).
I had to remove the silincing shims on all 4 of the rise pads for more room.
additionally I used a quite primitive method acting to remove some of the violate in paint that comes on the pads to give a little room ( they fit, but was worried they were excessively tight of a burst ). It is a sandpaper like spread that comes dried on the pads to help clean up your rotor. Some spots are a short compact than others and it was easy to gently rub them with identical low atmospheric pressure on the smooth concrete driveway untill the pad surface was dainty and fluent and most of the break in paint was gone. This allowed for great fitment with out beig tight ( did n’t want brakes dragging ).

I have no doubts that this is going to be the new standard for the AWD ‘s brake apparatus. If ANYONE lives near or in Colorado springs, please, please come campaign my car and FEEL the difference. You will be AMAZED.

With that said …

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kapalczynski all right, here ‘s the pics and a quick install how-to :

First some comparative pics
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now the tools/parts needed

Police pkg rotor and caliper bracket
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Tools
Ratchet with 15mm and 18mm sockets, 18mm open-ended wrench, Brake piston compaction creature ( a C clamp, etc will work ), hammer, 2 flat screw drivers, putty knife, Brake clean, Brake caliper grease, and barely in case, frailty grips. : )
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immediately the immediate how excessively. Always be safe while lifting/supporting your vehicle, use proper safety equipment, I am not apt for anything if your suffering yourself or brake anything so please be careful and complete this upgrade at your own risk or take your car to a professional.

1 ) I ‘ll make this quick, you all should know how to jack the cable car up safely, use blocks, use proper lift points, use laborer stands, etc thus after lifted and safely supported, remove wheel/tire.

2 ) Using 15mm socket and 18mm wrench remove caliper lead pin bolts
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3 ) Remove caliper, check your Master cylinder fluid level and ensure there is room for more fluent ( there should be unless brake fluid was added after brake pads were worn down ), and advertise caliper piston ALL the way back in to the caliper.
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4 ) Remove brake pads, using 18mm socket, remove both caliper bracket climb bolts and remove bracket.
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5 ) Remove rotor by pushing on one side and pulling on the other, sometimes it helps to use penetrative lubricant where rotor contacts hub and while pulling on rotor gently hit other side of rotor with malleus to vibrate it loose. DO NOT GET LUBRICANT ON WHEEL STUDS !
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6 ) Clean new rotor thoroughly with brake parts uninfected and install on hub.

7 ) lightly pull the guide personal identification number ‘s out of the previous caliper brackets. Secure caliper bracket in vise and gently tap flat end of screwdriver under the lip of the pressed in seal. Do this all the direction around the whole edge. then using 2 bland screwdrivers pry up on diametric sides and remove seal. Do this for all 4 seals ( if you purchased new seals skip this part ).
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8 ) Using caliper grease, grease the caliper guide pin holes in the new caliper. ensure you get a dear coat all the room in the holes.
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9 ) Install the the seals removed in mistreat 7 or the new ones if purchased by using a hammer to gently tap into the guide trap hole in the newly caliper bracket. A socket may be used to ensure the rubber boot does not get pluck during the hammer process, but american samoa farseeing as you hit it straight ( no beer allowed until after this footstep … lol ) the pull will lone be applied to the outside of the seal.
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10 ) Install the caliper usher pins into the new caliper brackets, install the brake hardware from honest-to-god brackets into new brackets.
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11 ) Using the 18mm caliper bracket bolts mount the new caliper bracket.

12 ) Install the modern brake pads

13 ) cautiously attempt to install the caliper. Depending on the trade name of brake pads, it may not fit or may be besides fast of a fit and drag – if this is the case proceed to step 14, if your caliper equip well, move on to step 15.

14 ) Making headroom board for the newly pads – this may be necessary due to the thick rotor you now have ( 1/8 ” thick than factory ). First, using a putty knife, remove the silencing shims on the back of the pad and attack re-installation. This should work, unless you have the EBC pads that come with a brake in coating that can be quite thick. If the pads are still excessively tight, gently rub the braking surface on a smooth harsh surface to shave down the launching pad surface to the thickness necessity to fit. I entirely had to shave some of the brake in coating to get a nice suit.
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15 ) Using the two 15mm caliper bolts tighten caliper.

16 ) Install the wheels. ENSURE YOU PUMP THE BRAKES SEVERAL TIMES UNTIL PEDAL IS HARD BEFORE DRIVING. This will push pad all the way up to rotor so you are ready to go.

I recommend breaking in pads. If using EBC ‘s use their procedures as the break in coating is designed to clean up old rotors and takes a bit of driving to wear it down before you can do the bed in procedure for the pads.

I DO not RECOMMEND INSTALLING GRIPPIER PADS ON THE REAR OF TEH VEHICLE THAN ON THE FRONT. If you installed EBC yellowstuff on the rears, install the same compound on the front.

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All in all the brakes seem to keep getting better and better as they break in. IF you had to remove the silencing shims on the rear pads you can install them again after the pad wear down ( if they are making noise ). You can besides apply HIGH TEMP disc break grease to the OUTSIDE of the brake pad ( not the braking open ! ! ! ) to prevent brake noise. It must be a high gear temp grease or it will drip off under heat conditions .
Gabe great write-up Mark … guess next time I ‘m changing the rear rotors, I ‘ll be asking R1concepts for some drilled/slotted Police rear rotors : mrgreen :

wish I could green-bean you again but it wo n’t let me … lol

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TTMR Nice, Got tantalum think about this. My diagonal feels beneficial now ( only a little changeable in a 120mph corner with brakes on a short ) but when the SRT rotors go astir movement this may have to happen in the back .
todd0218 for kapalczynski ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/member.php ? u=36713 ) was wondering if you had to swap calipers above in the photograph it says parts needed rotors and calipers but in the video it appears to be fresh rotors and caliper brackets … correct me if i am incorrect. All though i do not have an awd iodine am upgrading from the crap 3.5l brakes to r/t brakes. I purchased the r/t calipers and they come with the caliper brackets, but i like the idea of having a bigger rotor. I merely wanted to see if i could use the stock r/t caliper with the police rotors or if i would need patrol calipers excessively.
last if its only the caliper brackets i need are the awd caliper brackets different from rwd brackets ? If they are the lapp any idea on the caliper bracket separate issue ?

thanks in improvement .
kapalczynski for kapalczynski ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/member.php ? u=36713 ) was wondering if you had to swap calipers above in the word picture it says parts needed rotors and calipers but in the photograph it appears to be new rotors and caliper brackets … correct me if i am wrong. All though i do not have an awd iodine am upgrading from the stool 3.5l brakes to r/t brakes. I purchased the r/t calipers and they come with the caliper brackets, but i like the estimate of having a bigger rotor. I good wanted to see if i could use the standard r/t caliper with the police rotors or if i would need police calipers besides.
last if its only the caliper brackets i need are the awd caliper brackets unlike from rwd brackets ? If they are the lapp any idea on the caliper bracket part number ?

thanks in progress.

Yeah, thx. It was 3am when writing that … edited. : ) lol

All you need is bracket and rotor, besides if you prefer not to switch the template peg seals, its easier to buy fresh ones. All separate numbers are listed earlier in this ribbon except the guide fall seals. I will have to get that for you guys. The R/T AWD and R/T RWD use the same calipers and brackets so if you can upgrade to the R/T brakes with no issues you should be able to upgrade to the patrol pkg deoxyadenosine monophosphate well. : five hundred
MagnumManAWD Fantastic write up kapalczynski ! Grean beans sir. I ‘ve been through 2 sets of factory rotors before 45k miles and the R1 premium rotors have lasted me 30K miles and theyre starting to shimmy a bit. I ‘ve been wondering what the heck to do about my brakes since they are not up to my standard. Will decidedly refer to this screw thread very soon when I redo my brakes .
todd0218 thanks for the excellent information ! you helped us all out significantly ! !
a12rag Great write up and pictures ! ! ! Glad to hear it works ! ! One question, as I even have the original wheels on my AWD. .. your pics show aftermarket wheels/tires, sol do you think this would fit with OE wheels ? ? Will the bigger rotors and caliper resettlement paroxysm inside ?

Thanks,

Mark
kapalczynski Great write up and pictures ! ! ! Glad to hear it works ! ! One question, as I inactive have the original wheels on my AWD. .. your pics show aftermarket wheels/tires, so do you think this would fit with OE wheels ? ? Will the bigger rotors and caliper move match inside ?

Thanks,

Mark

I ‘m 99.9 % certain you will be finely. I did n’t modify the front apparatus at all and factory wheels fit with the front factory brakes ( which have a bigger caliper than the rear ). The rear caliper ‘s placement, compared to the front caliper location, is still not as far out so everything should be good. It merely moved about 1/2in out if that gives you an mind. I ‘m reasonably sure you can clear your factory roulette wheel and besides reasonably certain you can still even acquit you spare with no problems. I will try that erstwhile this week for confirmation for you all.

– stigmatize
Kamakazie2 Hey everyone iodine fair completed my patrol upgrade.. HOLY $ # ! % ! break power !
I ordered :
Premium D/S F/R Rotors with police package from R1
Stoptech Stainless Brake lines for F and R from R1
EBC Yellowstuff pads from Autoanything
ATE Superblue Dot 4 fluid from R1
Police rear caliper brackets from chryslerparts.net

I can not believe the dispute.

1. The bicycle travel is more like a sport spell preferably than a large american car. merely my 91 Maxima had this type if pedal steadiness / responsivness.
2. Stopping sting is placid and consistant.
3. Triggering anti-lock is very comfortable with one swift overhead of the pedal. Thats ruffianly to do with 255/55/18 cooper tires.
4. I can hover off the seat while stopping from 85-0.

I definatley eliminated a few feet of braking based on the prison term it takes me to engage hard brake with the less pedal travel.

AND I LOVE THE LOOK OF 4 HUGE ROTORS ON THE CAR !

: banana : :pepper : :kinglock :

FYI : I have OEM 18 ” rims and they fit no problem .
broma345 Great write up ! Adding this to the To Do list : )
Gabe Hey everyone iodine fair completed my police upgrade.. HOLY $ # ! % ! discontinue ability !
I ordered :
Premium D/S F/R Rotors with police software from R1
Stoptech Stainless Brake lines for F and R from R1
EBC Yellowstuff pads from Autoanything
ATE Superblue Dot 4 fluid from R1
Police rear caliper brackets from chryslerparts.net

Do you remember how much the items in bold above were ?

I ‘m due for a brake job … last warped my drilled/slotted R1 ‘s …
MY – HEMI Gabe, when I ordered my R1 ‘s a year and a half ago, there was no price difference ( paid $ 325 for all 4 corners ). I think that they may have changed their price since then though. Just prime minister or email Steven at R1 and he can get you a quotation. not certain on the price for the caliper as they came on the car and I went with the Hawk HPS pads from R1. Total paid to R1 for rotors, pads and ship was right around $ 485 .
alpinewil81 decidedly a motivation TO GET THIS DONE ASAP ! ! ! After I recently did all four corners but only adding drilled to the front, you can tell the raise is miserably lacking in stopping office. I ‘ve been looking for an cheap substitute over a boastfully brake kit out.

This rocks ! ! !
heavy & security Yeah, but I have the booklet good in front of me tho …

” Police-Specific Brake System

For agile stopping ability, Charger is equipped with and impressive brake organization that is unique to police vehicles and includes :

– gamey operation brake pads – front & rear
– heavy-duty four-wheel disk brakes with ABS
– 13.6×1.1-inch vent front man rotors
– 13.8×1.0-inch vented raise rotors
– Modified rear caliper
– Larger master cylinder

The criterion antilock brake system – with unique ABS calibration – increases vehicle dominance and stability under extreme brake conditions. Charger is besides equipped with Brake Assist. This standard feature helps apply maximum braking power in emergency situations. ”

Maybe it would use the rear more in “ emergency situations ” ?
its for the weight for the crap they carry in the trunk
Gabe Gabe, when I ordered my R1 ‘s a class and a half ago, there was no price difference ( paid $ 325 for all 4 corners ). I think that they may have changed their price since then though. Just prime minister or email Steven at R1 and he can get you a quote. not sure on the price for the caliper as they came on the car and I went with the Hawk HPS pads from R1. Total paid to R1 for rotors, pads and ship was right around $ 485.

Thanks Michelle … .. how do you like the HPS pads ?

And are your rotors drilled/slotted ?

I very wan na get the bigger rear rotors on this future brake speculate … specially when it ‘s a easy as swapping only out the caliper brackets : banana :
MY – HEMI I do have the drilled & slotted Gabe. The Hawk pads do an amazing job and have about no brake debris, but you decidedly need to do the bed in action. I did n’t and dealt with squealing for about a year and then they stopped. It was n’t bad in the winter campaign the windows were up and the radio is normally on …
Gabe I do have the drilled & slotted Gabe. The Hawk pads do an amazing job and have about no brake dust, but you decidedly need to do the bed in work. I did n’t and dealt with squealing for about a year and then they stopped. It was n’t bad in the winter campaign the windows were up and the radio is normally on …

Thanks Michelle : race : : rock ‘n’ roll :
Gabe Police box ( BR8 ) part # ‘s :

Rear caliper bracket – 5175065AA – $ 72.45 ea from moparonlineparts.com + ship ( OEM is alone source I know of )

Just found these raise caliper brackets for $ 68.25 each at moparpartz.com … excessively bad I did n’t check there before ordering them from moparonlineparts.com already … lol
kapalczynski Glad to see a couple more people doing this fantastic brake upgrade. Best bang for your tear. : D

For the phonograph record I tried my wheels on a SRT magnum and the 19 ” ASA AH8 ‘s WILL clear the brembos. besides since the R/T brakes bolt up to the AWD, I do believe the brembo ‘s will besides. however, I chose this option for the price, the ability to placid run factory 18 ” AWD wheels in the winter, and I retain the ability to run the spare run down.

– sign
kapalczynski Great write up and pictures ! ! ! Glad to hear it works ! ! One question, as I silent have the original wheels on my AWD. .. your pics show aftermarket wheels/tires, indeed do you think this would fit with OE wheels ? ? Will the bigger rotors and caliper move paroxysm inside ?

Thanks,

Mark

Just verified, 100 % they will not have any issues with your factory wheels. I put on my “ factory ” wheels and bamboozle tires ( I believe the ones that came with mine are 300 wheels, but non the less they are factory 18 ” wheels ) and had no clearance issues at all. Heres a photograph in the coke :

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On the snow/ice the brakes felt fantastic as well. This mod definately helps the diagonal. You get more even braking and more stop baron before the ab kicks in. Turned this car into an amazing drive machine. : )
Gabe car looks well ^^^ man … I ca n’t wait to get rid of my pulse rotors and join the upgrade golf club … lol
kapalczynski car looks good ^^^ man … I ca n’t wait to get rid of my pulsate rotors and join the upgrade club … lol

Glad I could help all the AWD-ers out there. Especially you AWD_Gabe – You ‘ve contributed a batch in research and trial by error to help the AWD LX community. I actually have a match questions for you about your frame-up if you do n’t mind – PM sent.

– mark
Gabe Glad I could help all the AWDers out there. Especially you AWD_Gabe – You ‘ve contributed alot in research and trial by error to help the AWD LX community. I actually have a coupple questions for you about yoursetup if you do n’t mind – PM sent.

– Mark

Thanks Mark … I ‘m getting fix to head to work, will reply to your PM with all the information tonight : )
kapalczynski I was n’t quite sure on this either, but figured it was along the like lines as my “ tweaked ” computer programming that comes along with the Police Package. I know I have the 3 stagecoach constancy program that comes on the SRT ‘s ( 2006-2008 ? ). There is absolutely no nosedive when stomping on the brakes and no tend at all around corners/on/off ramps.

On the victor cylinder, I think that the Police Packages have the like one as the SRT ‘s ampere well ( but do n’t quote me on that. I would have to get in touch with my parts guy at the dealer on that one to be sure. ).

Just think, we never narrowed it down to wether the AWD has the larger headmaster cylinder or not. chuck-n-michelle, would you mind giving your parts guy your vin and getting me a region count for your police pkg master cylinder ? I will then compare it to what my parts ridicule comes up with for my AWD vin and see if it is different.

It would be dainty to have even better brakes if this is an upgrade for us angstrom well.

– mark
kapalczynski fair think, we never narrowed it down to whether the AWD has the larger headmaster cylinder or not. chuck-n-michelle, would you mind giving your parts guy your vin and getting me a part number for your patrol pkg master cylinder ? I will then compare it to what my parts guy comes up with for my AWD vin and see if it is unlike.

It would be courteous to have even better brakes if this is an upgrade for us adenine well.

– Mark

chuck-n-michelle, you can disregard this. I finally grew a mind cell and looked on ebay and autotrader for vin numbers. here ‘s what I found :

2007 RWD Police package w/5.7L Hemi
– survive 9 of the vin for future parts references – 87H771165
– Brake Master Cylinder Part Number – 5189174AA – price on moparonlineparts – $ 100.57 + Shipping

2007 RWD SRT8 Super Bee package w/6.1L Hemi
– survive 9 of the vin for future parts references – 17H627235
– Brake Master Cylinder Part Number – 5189174AA ( like as Police box ) – price on moparonlineparts – $ 100.57 + Shipping

2007 AWD R/T package w/5.7L Hemi
– last 9 of the vin for future parts references – 47H655500
– Brake Master Cylinder Part Number – 5189175AA – price on moparonlineparts – $ 94.59 + Shipping

I besides verified the brake booster is the lapp for SRT-8 and AWD so the larger maestro should work. : )

now heres the leftover thing. When I look up a 2007 hedge charger by application on the SAME WEBSITE I used to look up the contribution numbers I was given it gives me different prices than when looking up by depart number ( it does not list part numbers when looking up by vehicle ).

Heres the descriptions according to moparonlineparts looked up by vehicle, not part phone number :

Master cylinder, charger, magnum, 300, w/o traction see – 05-07 – $ 108.79
Master cylinder, charger, magnum, 300, w/traction control – 05-07 – $ 232.30

here ‘s the description by part numbers

5189174AA – master cylinder – W/traction see W/o performance 2007
5189175AA – chief cylinder – W/traction control W/o operation 2007

According to that description the SRT8 and the Police do not have the “ operation ” brake software, possibly it is called something better ? LOL

So are there truly 4 master cylinders for the LX platform ? ? ?

What we learned from all this – there is MOST LIKELY a larger master cylinder that MAY fit our AWD ‘s that was used on the Police/SRT8 pkg. It may or may not work out for us depending on if it has electrical connections, etc for grip command type stuff and wether or not we have the same brake booster. I will have to use those vin numbers to look up our brake booster part numbers to see if they are different..I will wait for another day to call so I do n’t piss off my parts guy. hour angle hour angle

Looks like possibly another brake upgrade stick out for me to try. : D

I will get to this after I get to the Charger front swaybar endlink move project which is after I get to my diesel Jeep autonomy thermostat project ( since I have a waiting list for people wanting parts I reman for this stick out ). : modding :

AWD_Gabe, It might be worth a try, since you are working on the brakes anyhow, for you to give the SRT8/Police victor cylinder a hear if you have the time and $ $ $ to do it this go around. however, do n’t feel obligated. If you do n’t get to it correct away, I will finally. : )

– mark
kapalczynski I was n’t quite indisputable on this either, but figured it was along the like lines as my “ tweaked ” computer programming that comes along with the Police Package. I know I have the 3 stagecoach constancy course of study that comes on the SRT ‘s ( 2006-2008 ? ). There is absolutely no dive when stomping on the brakes and no tilt at all around corners/on/off ramps.

On the overcome cylinder, I think that the Police Packages have the same one as the SRT ‘s vitamin a well ( but do n’t quote me on that. I would have to get in touch with my parts guy at the principal on that one to be sure. ).

Yep you were correct in this argument, I looked into it and the SRT8/Police Master is the same adn different than the AWD dominate cylinder.

Thanks for your imput. : )

– target
ChuckWagon ^^^that ‘s some good information there ( beans to you ) ! The Police software rotors are classified in the parts tilt I believe as being BR8 ( iodine do n’t have my parts number in movement of me ), which are in a completely different class than the SRT. The diameters appear to be the same as SRT, but somehow they are different. Maybe it could be the fact that they do n’t have the slots in them like they do on the SRT … .do n’t know for certain .
kapalczynski ^^^that ‘s some good information there ( beans to you ) ! The Police software rotors are classified in the parts list I believe as being BR8 ( one do n’t have my parts list in front of me ), which are in a wholly different category than the SRT. The diameters appear to be the same as SRT, but somehow they are different. Maybe it could be the fact that they do n’t have the slots in them like they do on the SRT … .do n’t know for indisputable.

That is chastise the srt8 rotors are unlike than all other packages, same with the calipers – they are besides different than all other packages. The SRT8 Master cylinder is the same as the patrol overlord cylinder though according to my research .
Nickrt Anything wrong with the Raybestos 780395 Disc Brake Rotor ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015RRIFC/ref=ord_cart_shr ? ie=UTF8 & m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) second ? Amazon has them for $ 63.37 shipped. They are besides coated for corrosion protection .
kapalczynski Anything wrong with the Raybestos 780395 Disc Brake Rotor ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015RRIFC/ref=ord_cart_shr ? ie=UTF8 & m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) s ? Amazon has them for $ 63.37 shipped. They are besides coated for corrosion auspices.

Have n’t heard anything bad about them. I bought rotors from my local autozone. Just make certain the rotor is for the patrol package and it is the right diameter. I ordered 2 from autozone and one of them was misboxed and was the regular rear R/T rotor. That was the whole rationality I ordered locally … so if they did n’t fit I could return for absolve and I did n’t pay ship. When they had to send it back and get another it was free shipping besides.

Buy local if you can good in case … saves a hassle if anything is wrong. many parts stores do n’t even know teh police pkg exists. In fact when one was inquiring at the franchise they told me there was not any larger back rotor sizes at all on any of the chargers except the srt8.

good luck : )

– sign
Nickrt Pulled the trigger on-line. Normally I would buy from my local anesthetic NAPA as they treat me well ; particularly when looking for parts for my old IH Scout. Just could n’t bring myself to paying $ 105 a rotor …

They are supposed to be the Police rotors :

This product fits your 2009 Dodge Charger
Trim : R/T
Engine : 5.7L V8 Gas OHV Distributorless naturally Aspirated SFI Electronic FI MFI
Note : rear Disc Brake Rotor, ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY – 13.78 ” DIAMETER – w/POLICE PACKAGE – T ENG CODE
We ‘ll see what I get when they come. go with the loss ‘s alternatively of the yellows as well. Hope I do n’t regret my decision here …

Mark, have to thank you for your fact-finding and establishment work here. Looking ahead to installing these brakes.

Nick
kapalczynski Pulled the trigger on-line. Normally I would buy from my local anesthetic NAPA as they treat me good ; particularly when looking for parts for my old IH Scout. Just could n’t bring myself to paying $ 105 a rotor …

They are supposed to be the Police rotors :

This product fits your 2009 Dodge Charger
Trim : R/T
Engine : 5.7L V8 Gas OHV Distributorless naturally Aspirated SFI Electronic FI MFI
Note : rear Disc Brake Rotor, ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY – 13.78 ” DIAMETER – w/POLICE PACKAGE – T ENG CODE
We ‘ll see what I get when they come. go with the red ‘s alternatively of the yellows as well. Hope I do n’t regret my decisiveness here …

Mark, have to thank you for your fact-finding and validation work here. Looking forth to installing these brakes.

Nick

Yeah, I think you will be safe since it specified patrol, good luck !

Hey, I think you will like the EBC RED Stuff. It is supposed to have a dainty quick initial bite when cold compared to the yellows, the yellows do approximately arsenic adept as stock cold and better when warm, Yellows are better for high speeds and repeated heavy brake. Reds have the least brake dust .
kapalczynski just saw these listed under the heavy duty/performance section on rockauto.com :

RAYBESTOS Part # 780395P Advanced Technology – rear ; Police Package ; 13.78 ” Diameter – $ 58.99

Decent price and I have had nothing but good experiences from that locate ordering stuff for my jeep alot .
Nickrt That ‘s where I got the depart number to search on. Amazon was ultimately brassy with the free ship plus I know their return policy is effective. I ordered yesterday and the front rotors and caliper bushings arrived today. Amazing ! They stated that the rears may take a few supernumerary days. Hoping to have a project between the holidays. I think the pads will be the pace detail …
kapalczynski I have to agree, amazon is the direction to go for customer service. Sounds like you got a capital bargain.

I recently ordered from amazon and the package did not arrive … I tracked it and it said it was delivered 5 days prior. I emailed them and they 2day shipped another package, in the beggarly time a neighbor dropped off the orginal pkg that was sent to lapp address on a similarly named street. now I will return original and they will pay ship. Great service, instantaneously took wish of me w/o questions.

I ‘ve ordered alot from amazon in the past and never an publish either. This time it was the embark ship’s company ‘s mistake. Never a charge from amazon : )

I hope you get everything in prison term to do your project on your time off. good luck !
Gabe Would these be the HAWK HPS pads I ‘d want ?

Front :
hypertext transfer protocol : //www.highhorseperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp ? ProductCode=HB509x.678
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Rear, HD brakes :
hypertext transfer protocol : //www.highhorseperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp ? ProductCode=HB508F675
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MY – HEMI Those look like the adjust ones Gabe. These are the part # ‘s I got with R1 ‘s e-mail confirmation when I ordered in 2009.

Ordered : 1 Shipped : 1 D1057 HB508F.675 – Hawk HPS – Chrysler, Dodge ( Rear ) $ 0.00 Ship Date :
Ordered : 1 Shipped : 1 D1058 HB509F.678 – Hawk HPS – Chrysler, Dodge $ 0.00 Ship Date :

here are the prices for them through Tire Rack …

Front Fitment
note : Front brake pads.
price : $ 81.00 ( axle set )
Estimated Availability ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/cart/estimated_avail.html ) : In Stock
Manufacturer Part # : HB509F.678
Qty :
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Item added to cart.
View Cart / Checkout ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/cart/HoldingArea.jsp )
extra Product Information
Overview ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp ? make=Hawk & model=HPS+Street+brake+pads & group=HPS+Street+brake+pads & autoMake=Dodge & autoModel=Charger+RT+Performance+Pack & autoYear=2006 & autoModClar= ) | Reviews ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp ? make=Hawk & model=HPS+Street+brake+pads & group=HPS+Street+brake+pads & autoMake=Dodge & autoModel=Charger+RT+Performance+Pack & autoYear=2006 & autoModClar= & dtab=Reviews )
Hawk HPS Street brake pads ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp ? make=Hawk & model=HPS+Street+brake+pads & group=HPS+Street+brake+pads & autoMake=Dodge & autoModel=Charger+RT+Performance+Pack & autoYear=2006 & autoModClar= ) ( Performance Street ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/techpage.jsp ? techid=86 ) )

Rear Fitment
Note : buttocks brake pads.
monetary value : $ 69.00 ( axle set )
Estimated Availability ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.tirerack.com/cart/estimated_avail.html ) : In Stock
Manufacturer Part
Gabe Those look like the chastise ones Gabe. These are the depart # ‘s I got with R1 ‘s e-mail confirmation when I ordered in 2009.

Ordered : 1 Shipped : 1 D1057 HB508F.675 – Hawk HPS – Chrysler, Dodge ( Rear ) $ 0.00 Ship Date :
Ordered : 1 Shipped : 1 D1058 HB509F.678 – Hawk HPS – Chrysler, Dodge $ 0.00 Ship Date :

Thanks Michelle.

Ended up ordering them through amazon.com … love their customer service and lower prices ( even merely by a dollar or so ), plus free ship ; )

besides got a few more things coming while I was adding thing to the haul : )
Gabe fair got the rear caliper brackets in. The place I got them from had to order them and it took a few days for them to get them …

On a english note, the boxes they come in could hold 3 of these brackets in each one … what a godforsaken of packaging … lol

now I need to go down to my trusty local Dodge trader or auto-parts storehouse and pick me up some newfangled buttocks seals/hardware, since I do n’t plan on transferring 3-year old rubber parts to the modern brackets ; )
Ron380 Ohhhh, go wannn … it ‘ll be ticket ! ; )

Glad to hear you ‘re upgrading the brakes before you go to the following step in power ! You ‘re smarter than they all say you are ! : thumbs_u :

: mrgreen :
Gabe Ohhhh, go wannn … it ‘ll be ticket ! ; )

Glad to hear you ‘re upgrading the brakes before you go to the following step in power ! You ‘re smarter than they all say you are ! : thumbs_u :

: mrgreen :

Hehe … I never said the brakes would get done before the blower … : blam :

Honestly, I have no agenda yet : banghead : for how it ‘s all gon na go down : modding :

Some of the stuff ( the rear tittup tugboat brace ) will most likely wait till the spring when it ‘s more comfortable to work outside …

The brakes and coilovers will be done at the like prison term since it makes smell while everything ‘s apart anyhow ; )
Nickrt The rears are in. Too early for any comments except they look capital ! The rise pads fit with the condom isolator and w/o having to grind down the pad. Again, thanks for the guidance .
kapalczynski The rears are in. Too early for any comments except they look big ! The rear pads fit with the arctic isolator and w/o having to grind down the diggings. Again, thanks for the steering.

Yeah, one should n’t have to grind the embroider … quite surprised I had to. I think it was because of the concluding application on the EBC pad. I actually did n’t remove any diggings corporeal, just some of the sand newspaper like coating they have to scrub the rotor and prepare it for the new pad to assist w/ break in. This was credibly a slender design overlook by EBC when they changed up things adding the coating .
Fastmover Brake pkg information :

OK, So I searched the forum and could n’t find anyone w/AWD that has done the BR8 brake package ( dodge option code for the patrol brakes ).

I have been doing ALOT of inquiry on the brakes for the AWD vs the RWD in the different models. It looks like we may be able to upgrade to the police brake apparatus. I can entirely find a remainder of the rear rotor and rear caliper bracket between the two brake systems :

Police RWD – BR8
R/T AWD – BR5
R/T/Daytona RWD – BR5

It seems one can switch the rear rotors and caliper brackets to the BR8 separate numbers and get a larger rear rotor for optimize cooling system back there adn better brake bias.

Heres my lead based on the information I have so far, I ‘ll use your booklet :

– high performance brake pads – front & rear – brake compound is unlike – Dodge tried several compounds for the patrol after complaints from the officers.
– heavy-duty four-wheel disk brakes with ABS – well yea … lol
– 13.6×1.1-inch vent front rotors – R/t performance and AWD R/T rotor
– 13.8×1.0-inch vent rear rotors – Police pkg specific
– Modified rear caliper – larger caliper bracket to accomidate the rotor
– big overlord cylinder – very ? The franchise I checked with … they said there was “ w/ stability control and w/o ” for the overcome cylinder options. entirely 2 different ones available and we about all have the grip see option. I will check into this again, possibly there is a 3rd one ?

” with singular ABS calibration ” – the rear rotor being larger gives slenderly more rear brake bias and better rear cool, apparently the ABS is calibrated for this … or maybe it is calibrated for less presence end dive and system of weights transfer if the police pkg has better shocks/struts ?

Awesome data kapalczynski. Your install post on p.3 should actually be a stand-alone in the KB.

interview : should n’t the line for rise rotors include R/T operation ? As per post 1 in this thread hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php ? t=193982
and early places in the forums I thought the R/T R & T and Daytonas have 13.77 ( 13.8 ) buttocks rotors – not entirely the police software ?
gccruzer Hey Markie estimable job starting this ribbon ! mine fair turned 32,000 and the rotors are warped, now I have all of the depart numbers needed …
kapalczynski Awesome data kapalczynski. Your install position on p.3 should very be a stand-alone in the KB.

interview : should n’t the line for buttocks rotors include R/T performance ? As per post 1 in this weave hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php ? t=193982
and other places in the forums I thought the R/T R & T and Daytonas have 13.77 ( 13.8 ) rear rotors – not only the police package ?

That ampere far as I know is wrong. My colleague has the R/T Daytona and has the smaller rotors on the buttocks. The “ performance ” brakes refers to the battlefront larger calipers that the daytona, AWD ‘s and the police become. The v6ers have even smaller brakes from what I understand. The regular r/t ‘s may have the v6 brakes ? I am not certain on that. Annother possibility is my coworkers is an older daytona ( ’06 ) and the newer ones have the larger back rotors ?

What I am in truth concern in now is the brake victor. The police and the SRT have the same one so it is most probable larger than mine … time for annother upgrade. : ) hopefully the larger master will work with my promoter therefore I do not have to change that besides.

More to come on that late : D

**EDIT** *Just looked at that post. it says SOME daytonas have the larger back rotor in the link you quoted. So I imagine it depends on the box or the year on wether they have the larger rears or not*

– mark
Fastmover That equally far as I know is faulty. My colleague has the R/T Daytona and has the smaller rotors on the buttocks. The “ performance ” brakes refers to the front larger calipers that the daytona, AWD ‘s and the patrol perplex. The v6ers have even smaller brakes from what I understand. The regular r/t ‘s may have the v6 brakes ? I am not surely on that. Annother hypothesis is my coworkers is an older daytona ( ’06 ) and the newer ones have the larger back rotors ?

What I am in truth matter to in now is the brake passkey. The police and the SRT have the same one so it is most probable larger than mine … time for annother upgrade. : ) hopefully the larger chief will work with my supporter so I do not have to change that besides.

More to come on that late : D

**EDIT** *Just looked at that post. it says SOME daytonas have the larger rear rotor in the link you quoted. So I imagine it depends on the package or the year on wether they have the larger rears or not*

– Mark

Thanks for the answer Mark. For clearness I think we need to consider all variables when talking about rotor size. year, model and box ( if any ). My car is n’t a regular 07 R/T, it ‘s an 07 R/T R & T operation package which does include ‘heavy duty ‘ brakes. precisely before you replied to me I FINALLY located this screw thread which makes a specific 2007 road and track software reference, see post 4 : hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php ? p=3066134 # post3066134
So use of patrol rotors on 07 R/T R & Ts indicates 13.77 ” back rotors, no ? Same 06 car has 12.60 ” back rotors. Thoughts ?
Bob
kapalczynski Thanks for the answer Mark. For clearness I think we need to consider all variables when talking about rotor size. year, model and package ( if any ). My car is n’t a even 07 R/T, it ‘s an 07 R/T R & T performance package which does include ‘heavy duty ‘ brakes. just before you replied to me I FINALLY located this thread which makes a specific 2007 road and track software address, see post 4 : hypertext transfer protocol : //www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php ? p=3066134 # post3066134
So use of police rotors on 07 R/T R & Ts indicates 13.77 ” rear rotors, no ? Same 06 car has 12.60 ” rear rotors. Thoughts ?
Bob

The packages overlap. For model, the BR8 software has a larger master cylinder, brembo brakes. The same “ BR8 package on the police cable car has the same SRT8 master cylinder, but smaller calipers ( lapp calipers we have on AWD ) but a larger rear rotor than the AWD. There is no specific package that has any 1 thing for a brake organization as a whole.

For bare clarification just note this : If you have smaller than 13.7 ish rotors on the raise, you can upgrade to the patrol rear rotor and rear caliper bracket. the AWD ‘s all have the heavy duty front brakes already, the lapp ones the patrol frons are … calipers and rotors are the same.

Feel release to ask questions if this does n’t gain things up.

– score
kapalczynski I ordered the SRT8 brake passkey cylinder nowadays. According to my parts guy the SRT-8 master is the same as the police master. besides the Booster is the same on the AWD ‘s ( and credibly all rwd ‘s ) as the SRT8 and police.

I ‘ll let you all know how the install goes, if it fits as hop, if I notice a larger hold, etc.

I hope to see a foster improvement on bicycle travel and brake as a unharmed.

– chump
bigdan1 Mark,
have you done the switch to the bigger master yet ?

did you see improvement ?

I follow this ribbon … … I need to upgrade to police software besides

thanks a million for all the involment you did for all of us on this string ! : rock :

Dan … ..
kapalczynski Mark,
have you done the switch to the bigger master however ?

did you see improvement ?

I follow this ribbon … … I need to upgrade to police package besides

thanks a million for all the involment you did for all of us on this weave ! : rock :

Dan … ..

Nope, I sold it since I sold the car to prepare for an assignment to Australia. Never got the chance to install it. I am 95 % certain it would work though. I looked at mine adn compared it to the SRT one, and checked master separate numbers and booster part numbers. The booster is the same for the SRT, the patrol and the RT. The maestro is the lapp for the Police and the SRT so it sould bolt up to the RT no problem since we all have the lapp supporter. I will shoot a PM to the guy that bought it nad see if he ‘s installed it yet. It should be a SIGNIFICANT improvement to our brake system. I lone wish i had it in to try out before selling the car. I have no doubts its brakes would be just fantastic with this last mod.

– grade
prican_2000 Mark,

Thanks for the Research on this, it seems I have some parts I need to buy/acquire thanks to you .
kapalczynski Mark,

Thanks for the Research on this, it seems I have some parts I need to buy/acquire thanks to you.

No trouble, beaming to help. : ) I calm think it was the best mod iodine did to the charger. I very wish iodine had a shance to install the SRT 8 brake dominate cylinder to improve them even further. good fortune !

– stigmatize
Gabe I have an appointment this Saturday to last have this upgrade done to my charger … ca n’t wait to see what remainder I notice …
MattRMagnum Hey Gabe, where ‘d you order the parts from ?
Gabe Hey Gabe, where ‘d you decree the parts from ?

Moparonlineparts.com for the Police-pkg rear caliper brackets.

Amazon.com for the Hawk brake pads : )

Frozen Rotors for the cryo-treated police-pkg rear rotors ; )
MattRMagnum Ouch ! Four of those rotors would put me back what I was budgeting for my entire bracken surrogate. Out of curio, why ‘d you do good the buttocks rotors ?

and thanks for the information, Gabe. : )
Gabe Ouch ! Four of those rotors would put me back what I was budgeting for my entire brake substitution. Out of curiosity, why ‘d you do precisely the back rotors ?

and thanks for the information, Gabe. : )

It was $ 640 shipped for all 4 rotors.

And I ‘m only doing the rise because the fronts are already installed : mrgreen :
Gabe well, I ultimately got the Police-Pkg-sized rear Frozen Rotors rotors installed, along with new Hawk HPS pads and the need new rear caliper brackets.

When the technical school went to install the newfangled pads and the install the caliper, he found that the caliper would n’t fit ascribable to the slurred pads, but besides due to the thick rotors.

We put the modern rotor against the ( true worn ) old rotor and the newfangled rotor was about 2-3mm slurred … he had to remove the silencer yellow journalism on the back of the pads, and tied had to remove some material / shave-down one of the pads on each side to get the caliper to reinstall and the wheel still turn.

now the pics : )

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a12rag well, after starting this train of thought oh then long ago, I have FINALLY gotten around to changing the brakes on my car. .. I had 151km ( 93,500miles ) on the ORIGINAL pads and rotors ! ! ! I got parts from RockAuto, the Raybestos Police package rear rotors, and their front rotors with the squiggly wave grooves. And went with the Akebono ceramic pads for both front and rear.

I figured that it was time to place the winter tires on the car, so if I have the wheels off, might a well do the brakes – which by the way, are soooo easy to do ! ! !. .. anyhow, everything burst and went on great ! ! ! I have to admit the new rotors have more material ( i.e. they weigh more ) to them, and the intercept is soooo much better nowadays ! ! ! The original pads, specially in the buttocks ( strange ), were reasonably well wear, “ about ” to the squeeler yellow journalism. I think I did good to get that many kilometer ‘s ( miles ) out of the originals – although I have done a voltaic pile of highway driving with this car besides. ..

My suggestion, if you need to do brakes, go for the patrol software rear rotors and the new caliper arranger ! ! !
bigdan1 I plan to do the same besides …
could you list the parts number,
way easier to decree

thanks
Dan
alpinewil81 well, after starting this thread oh so long ago, I have FINALLY gotten around to changing the brakes on my car. .. I had 151km ( 93,500miles ) on the ORIGINAL pads and rotors ! ! ! I got parts from RockAuto, the Raybestos Police box rise rotors, and their presence rotors with the squiggly wave grooves. And went with the Akebono ceramic pads for both front and rear.

I figured that it was time to place the winter tires on the car, so if I have the wheels off, might arsenic well do the brakes – which by the room, are soooo easily to do ! ! !. .. anyhow, everything fit and went on capital ! ! ! I have to admit the new rotors have more material ( i.e. they weigh more ) to them, and the intercept is soooo much better now ! ! ! The original pads, particularly in the rear ( strange ), were pretty well wear, “ about ” to the squeeler yellow journalism. I think I did good to get that many kilometer ‘s ( miles ) out of the originals – although I have done a voltaic pile of highway driving with this cable car excessively. ..

My hypnotism, if you need to do brakes, go for the police package back rotors and the new caliper adapter ! ! !

If you got your parts list handy, that ‘ would be appreciated. My AWD has new rear brakes but I besides have ATE slotted with matching pads improving presence and want more stopping power from the raise. I ‘m volition to part with the rotors on the back. My buttocks ATE pads should placid be in good shape though .
a12rag Ok guys, here are the parts I used ( from RockAuto ) :

ACT1057A. .. front pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
ACT108. .. .. rear pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
780395P. .. . raise rotors ( Raybestos )
780256PER. . front rotors ( Raybestos – R300 series, with grooves )
H16129. .. .. caliper bushings ( new rubber bushings for back caliper adapters )
5175065-AB. .. rear caliper adapters, from Dodge

I do n’t drive my car hard ( as in road racing or anything like that ), however I do like the extra brake capacity this brake upgrade ( in rise and front man rotors ) has given the car. much better feel in everyday driving. I am certain that it will besides help with “ spirited ” driving ! !

Does n’t take long to do, and you will be felicitous with the results I am certain.

Cheers

Mark

drag_racer Alright, so I got tantalum do brakes on mine right away. Fronts can wait a bit but rears have to be done soon ( 150,000km on the OEM pads/rotors … .I think the inner pad on the pass rear disintegrated )

It appears that rock car does NOT carry the rear caliper brackets anymore. Does anyone know of a place that has them available and reasonably priced ? IIRC Rock Auto had them for like $ 25 each.

besides, which part # ‘s from R1 Concepts would I need for patrol box slotted/drilled rear rotors ?
Ronin This post is about a class old but I wanted to bring it to the top to see if anyone had updated information on where they got the brackets, what rotors and pads they were using, etc. I ‘m needing to do this on my AWD R/T here veridical soon …

Thanks in progress for helpful replies !
Billet1 Does the Super Track Pack have the polonium ; ice software or only the police brake pads ?
alpinewil81 This post is about a class old but I wanted to bring it to the peak to see if anyone had updated information on where they got the brackets, what rotors and pads they were using, etc. I ‘m needing to do this on my AWD R/T here real number soon …

Thanks in improvement for helpful replies !

a12rag posted the following :

ACT1057A. .. front pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
ACT108. .. .. raise pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
780395P. .. . rear rotors ( Raybestos )
780256PER. . front man rotors ( Raybestos – R300 series, with grooves )
H16129. .. .. caliper bushings ( new rubberize bushings for rear caliper adapters )
5175065-AB. .. rear caliper adapters, from Dodge

I did mine last year and followed the same parts listing. Did n’t have any issues then so you should be able to use it again or cross reference them if needed. He ‘s right, decidedly puts more ooomph into the stopping ability of these boastfully pigs.

Gabe ‘s walk through american samoa well does a great job. He is pretty easy to contact and a good guy to deal with if you have more questions above what he posted. I used to have ATE Rotors and pads anterior to my patrol package set up, great stopping exponent but rotors warped constantly … never do that mark again .
Ronin Thanks, I did see that. That function number for the bushings is n’t giving me anything on 3 different MOPAR parts websites. I ‘m trying to avoid a dealer trip for those bushings at all costs for a diverseness of reasons. I ‘m going to do Power Slot rotors and Stop-Tech pads and I ‘ll probably paint the calipers red while I ‘m at it. It looks good on a bootleg car with black wheels, and red does mean stop …
alpinewil81 Thanks, I did see that. That separate number for the bushings is n’t giving me anything on 3 unlike MOPAR parts websites. I ‘m trying to avoid a principal tripper for those bushings at all costs for a variety of reasons. I ‘m going to do Power Slot rotors and Stop-Tech pads and I ‘ll probable paint the calipers red while I ‘m at it. It looks good on a black car with black wheels, and crimson does mean stop …

Ha, red … it does mean stop ! That ‘s funny story right there.

Hey, you made me think of something. I had a like issue with that. I actually went back to NAPA for the bushings.

UP 83609 is the bushing kit from them. Should be lapp for battlefront and raise. Does n’t hurt to do both if you are going to be in there anyhow.

Hope that helps you out some. not surely if you got a NAPA near you, but I ‘ve learned they are better suited for Chrysler than AutoZone or others as they tend to stock certificate more parts that we much find ourselves want.

Keep us posted .
Ronin Ugh … now I ‘m trying to figure out why there ‘s two unlike part numbers ( and prices ) for the Power Slot front rotors …
The Blur Has anyone noticed there is excessively much rear bracken bias after the upgrade ? ? Do the rears lock up in the rain ?
351Freak Ugh … now I ‘m trying to figure out why there ‘s two different part numbers ( and prices ) for the Power Slot front rotors …

If rotors are directing … then ther is a leave and a right …

When i ran srt presence and police back with 93 compound pads it kicked arsenic … no proportion issues that one noticed.

Will be doing the same again now that i have an awd maggy … will do a full article when its done …
Ronin If rotors are directing … then there is a leave and a right …

When iodine ran srt front and police back with 93 compound pads it kicked ass … no balance issues that one noticed.

Will be doing the lapp again now that one have an awd maggy … will do a full article when its done …

Good consider, I ‘m looking ahead to it and appreciate the information !
BrotherB Subscribed for further information …
MattRobertson Has anyone noticed there is excessively a lot rear brake bias after the upgrade ? ? Do the rears lock up in the rain ?

Short version of this post : These cars can take MUCH heavier brake bias to the rear than most people think they can.

During my years of experiment with braking setups I fiddled with a variety of racetrack launching pad jazz band on aftermarket bad brake calipers and found it was literally impossible to put on a plant of cut pads that were besides aggressive in the rear, and in fact it did nothing but help track performance by increasing stopping world power while NOT causing any ill effects like previous ABS battle, crashing, dying etc.

The net effect of increasing the aggressiveness of the rear pad was to elevate the temps in the rise rotors while at the same time decreasing the vertex temps in the presence. And since I was dam near melting the front rotors ( cracking them after one track day was coarse ) that was a big profit. In fact I ended up backing off one footstep on the raise compound choice specifically to keep some heat out of the rears ( letting them peak at around 800 degrees ) because I had expensive 2-piece rotors on the rear and cheap SRT rotors on the front man. The combination of $ 50 rotors and an easy swap routine meant I let the fronts load up and just threw them aside after 3 or then days on track.

When I went to SRT rotors and bigger calipers in rear ( bigger rotors and bigger calipers than the already outsize ones I had upgraded to before ) I went soap on the diggings colonial since I now had hardware that could take it. Worked great and took enough warhead away from the fronts so that they no longer cracked after track days. At all.

Moral of the story is do n’t worry about brake bias to the rear .
351Freak AWD maggie is now running.

I have installed the patrol rotors rear and SRT in front but this meter I went with a bigger caliper pkg … twin 55mm pistons vs. counterpart 44mm.

I will do as Matt discussed and put the most aggressive pads I can find on the back and run at LEAST the 93 compound on the front.

My 93 compound is not arsenic aggressive as what Matt has run … I think he is .05 higher in CoF … mine are .60 and his pads were .65.

I have some rear suspension to fix and then I will get money to Dave to relist me as Vendor … then I ‘ll do the writeup with results.

It can lone get better than my original pkg … and that kicked ass with the 44mm pistons … ! ! !

The new kit is slicker excessively …

-Freak
Rottyfan excellent thread and thank you to everyone who contributed great information. I happened upon this string because I will be modding my engine then wisdom tells me you better upgrade your ability to rein in the extra world power. Thought I ‘d share what I found. then far the most expensive partially is the bracket. I more than made up for it with a pair of rotors from Advance Auto. They run 48.99 each. I needed to spend $ 75 to get free shipping so I besides bought a rubber pin boot kit for 16.99 and some tune up grease as a filler for 1.49. I found a $ 40 off coupon code so everything cost $ 76.46 shipped to my door not including sales tax. hera are the depart numbers :

Wearever Brake Rotor ( hypertext transfer protocol : //shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/wearever-brake-rotor-rear-yh200388/15670482-P ) YH200388 $ 48.99 each ( with rebate it cost $ 64.33 for two rotors )
Wearever Caliper Rubber Pin Boot Kit ( hypertext transfer protocol : //shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/wearever-caliper-rubber-pin-boot-kit-8237a/15310089-P ) 8237A $ 16.99 ( with deduction it cost $ 11.15 )

I besides started researching stainless brake lines and it looks like there is only one kit out out there that sincerely fits the AWD LXs. It ‘s the Goodridge 12413 brake lineage kit out. There ‘s another brake line kit out there that claimed it equip AWD, but person found out that the front brake lines in the kit were excessively farseeing. The best price I have found so far is about $ 155 .
DarkKn1ght Mopar Online Parts can sell you the 2014 Police AWD brakes and carry bars. They figured out the part numbers. They are directly upgrades for our Chargers .
Treehop I can confirm firsthand that the Goodridge stainless steel steel brake lines fit the AWD. Stoptech does NOT make a AWD adaptation and the fronts will fit if you tie up the excess long lines, but they do not fit perfectly as the Goodridge ones. The AWD lines are cheaper than the RWD due to the front lines being inadequate.

Excellent thread and thank you to everyone who contributed great information. I happened upon this thread because I will be modding my engine so wisdom tells me you better upgrade your ability to rein in the extra office. Thought I ‘d share what I found. so far the most expensive separate is the bracket. I more than made up for it with a pair of rotors from Advance Auto. They run 48.99 each. I needed to spend $ 75 to get free transportation then I besides bought a rubber peg boot kit out for 16.99 and some tune up dirt as a makeweight for 1.49. I found a $ 40 off coupon code so everything price $ 76.46 shipped to my doorway not including sales tax. here are the region numbers :

Wearever Brake Rotor ( hypertext transfer protocol : //shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/wearever-brake-rotor-rear-yh200388/15670482-P ) YH200388 $ 48.99 each ( with deduction it cost $ 64.33 for two rotors )
Wearever Caliper Rubber Pin Boot Kit ( hypertext transfer protocol : //shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/wearever-caliper-rubber-pin-boot-kit-8237a/15310089-P ) 8237A $ 16.99 ( with deduction it cost $ 11.15 )

I besides started researching stainless steel bracken lines and it looks like there is only one kit out there that sincerely fits the AWD LXs. It ‘s the Goodridge 12413 brake line kit. There ‘s another brake production line kit out there that claimed it match AWD, but person found out that the front brake lines in the kit were excessively retentive. The best price I have found so far is about $ 155 .
351Freak equitable to chime in …

Since 2009 I have used Russell p/n 694060 from acme and early places with absolutely no problems on either RWD or AWD for less than $ 130/set in all cases.
It is listed for the 2006/07 Charger R/T but works on all not SRT cars that I am aware of.

AND as a be up …

My AWD Maggie is shod with SRT rotors FRONT and REAR with directional grooves … autozone commercial account … and cheap.

I use the police brackets in bet on and my custom-made apparatus in front with twin 55mm piston calipers and custom brackets. I will have customs pads made for the front man in the very near future … since the pad form is different due to the different caliper.

-Freak
351Freak On Gabe ‘s setup above …

His rotors were made to SRT specification thickness while the pads are for RT thickness …

I went thru this dilemna when I had the pads made for my original conversion kits.

Did the same thing … removed silencer shims and shaved 1/16 ” off of each pad. I then contacted manufacturer and had them note a new thickness specification on all future orders.

entirely thing to be careful of is the tolerance on the brackets vs rotor thickness … keep an eye out for rubbing, as you may have to clearance the brackets for the thick rotor … but it normally will be minimal if at all. I have yet to have a jell hit … but they do come close … some within .020 ” -.030 ”.

My opinion is to shy away from bore rotors due to cracking issues … but slotted are very well for embroider cleaning and supposed cooling benefits. To each his own, though.

-Freak
alpinewil81 : popcorn :

Patiently waiting for the write up with some pics. I hate, and I mean HATE my brake set up presently. I run a pretty aggressive set up with the Police Rears but man, when coming to a stop on the track they are n’t vitamin a reactive as I ‘d like. They ‘re hot, their cold, they bite, the do n’t … blah bombast. Keep us post Freak ! Thanks !
privateer Hi does anyone have the Cardone function # for the Police rear caliper brackets ? I would preferably get these than the much more expensive Chrysler parts if I can, I am doing this right now on my 2005 Magnum R/T RWD Thanks ! ! ! !
a12rag posted the take after :

ACT1057A. .. presence pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
ACT108. .. .. raise pads ( Akebono, ceramic )
780395P. .. . raise rotors ( Raybestos )
780256PER. . battlefront rotors ( Raybestos – R300 series, with grooves )
H16129. .. .. caliper bushings ( modern arctic bushings for rear caliper adapters )
5175065-AB. .. rear caliper adapters, from Dodge

I did mine end year and followed the same parts listing. Did n’t have any issues then so you should be able to use it again or cross reference them if needed. He ‘s right, decidedly puts more ooomph into the stopping power of these bad pigs.

Gabe ‘s walk through angstrom well does a great job. He is pretty easy to contact and a good guy to deal with if you have more questions above what he posted. I used to have ATE Rotors and pads prior to my patrol package set up, great stopping power but rotors warped constantly … never do that brand again .
alpinewil81 Hi does anyone have the Cardone part # for the Police rear caliper brackets ? I would quite get these than the much more expensive Chrysler parts if I can, I am doing this right now on my 2005 Magnum R/T RWD Thanks ! ! ! !

I ‘m not indisputable if its the 14-1207 or not ? The are calling it a Performance Break Package, 5.7, RWD. Mopar calls it their Heavy Duty Break Package, as perform respective others when describing the Police Package components. Does Cardone offer this part ? I ‘ve only read/heard of people using the Mopar part. That includes myself. Granted I did not pay near what people are listing the brackets for. I bought mine both for what I ‘ve seen several sites list each for … if it was an accident on my dealers part, cool. I do n’t know … no truly, I do n’t know. I ‘m only aware of the Mopar depart .
privateer I was hoping it was that one, I am hoping person out there can confirm this ! the Chrysler ones are about $ 80 each ! ! or possibly person out there has a set in their garage ! ? { hope so }
I ‘m not sure if its the 14-1207 or not ? The are calling it a Performance Break Package, 5.7, RWD. Mopar calls it their Heavy Duty Break Package, as perform several others when describing the Police Package components. Does Cardone offer this part ? I ‘ve only read/heard of people using the Mopar part. That includes myself. Granted I did not pay near what people are listing the brackets for. I bought mine both for what I ‘ve seen respective sites list each for … if it was an accident on my dealers function, cool. I do n’t know … no truly, I do n’t know. I ‘m alone mindful of the Mopar function .
HERMINIO

From: [email protected])
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Herminio Rodriguez (
Subject: RE: Customer Service Question from Cardone.com

Good afternoon Mr. Rodriguez, we apologize but we do not offer just the brackets for your application.

If someone wants to verify further….

Any luck about the part numbers and adaptability to earlier LX’s of the new bigger front police brake package? I asked to them on august about the caliper bracket for the vented raise 13.8 ” ( 350 x26 millimeter ) brake rotors and they answered this : From : [ e-mail protected ] Sent : Friday, August 15, 2014 4:17 PMTo : Herminio Rodriguez ( [ e-mail protected ] subject : re : Customer Service Question from Cardone.comGood good afternoon Mr. Rodriguez, we apologize but we do not offer just the brackets for your application.If person wants to verify farther … .Any luck about the partially numbers and adaptability to earlier LX ‘s of the fresh bigger battlefront police brake software ?
351Freak I now have the SRT rotors on all 4 corners and the braid Russel lines and pics … accomplished with RWD wheels that folks swear wo n’t fit..haha …

Will try and get them up this weekend …

-Freak
alpinewil81 I nowadays have the SRT rotors on all 4 corners and the braided Russel lines and pics … complete with RWD wheels that folks swear wo n’t fit..haha …

Will try and get them up this weekend …

-Freak

I wan na see what wheels you fit to the car that carry a RWD beginning … Simply because the front is where they do n’t fit, the rears are virtually the lapp on all LX cars. only miner tweaks in suspension and brake packages so wheels do n’t matter on the back half. I went down the road once before of person trying to fit RWD wheels on my car, sure the rears were fine. But the fronts ? Reminded me a 1980 ‘s lowrider with the electrify wheels sticking out 2 ” beyond the fender …. An 18 ” rack may work with a narrow-minded width. But by trial and error, I know differently …. particularly with a lower car like mine and anything 20 ” and up.

Lets see these pics man, I ‘m more worry about brakes than wheels .
351Freak ok. Will see whaat i got to do to get these pics off telephone and on tinypic.com since we do n’t have a repository on here … or do we ? ? ?

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Sorry about rear movie rotating … will get it fix.

Wheels on drivers side protrude 1 ” past fenders … perfective for me. Pass. side was a short less with orig wheels.

Front good clears wells with 275/40/20 on all 4 corners.

Brakes are the SRT rotors from Autozone … slotted … rise calipers are police … fronts are specials with brackets I made … Twin 55mm pistons vs. lineage 44mm pistons.

-Freak
alpinewil81 Do you take that thing hound by chance ? Sorry …. had to ask. I ‘m thus used to my 22 ‘s tucking a little that I forgot just how high gear these things sat being AWD. I run BCR Coilovers on mine and sit about the acme of the SRT. Those 20 ‘s with that extra 1 ” will chew up the paint if you guys get bamboozle and they sand the roads. One of the many things I learned the hard room. here in Wyoming, they sand the **** out of our roads. Which sucks … … … but then again I guess the early option is salt and rust. Do you have more pics on the bracket and front break install ? ? ? ? The rears are easy, its the fronts that people very need the options for. Just like everything else on our cars, anything the RWD can do we can do on the rear half, its our battlefront half that f-kin sucks for options. But boy, is AWD fun to drive under the right circumstances : – ).

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351Freak This was an entire rebuild … so front has n’t settled so far. I dropped the kmember and added new axles and tightened all suspension components and drive has been limited to my behind subdivision cul-de-sac. I am certain front will drop an inch … rears are Nivomats, so it should stay. not complaining … front drop will give the position some musclecar rake.

I like the stature for clearance … and will be adding the flaps to help protect the paint.

The presence brakes will have a compose up when the forum owner gets back to me with with seller costs so I can advertise again. Dave sent me an e-mail a good while back and I lost it and either he has n’t responded to my request to resend … or I got some filter trashing his emails.

SO IF YOU SEE THIS DAVE … I WANT TO SEND YOU SOME MONEY … ! ! !

The fronts turned out to be easier to do with the larger calipers than trying to resuse the stockers. The only other issue I have to tackle now is getting pads made with the decline angel plate condition … since it is not the same form as stock.

In talking with Matt Robertson, this should n’t be an issue … then I fair need to make some calls and send some money.

I will likely offer up a very decent bargain for a member to come to me and do the conversion at my rate … just so we have a second place of eyes and impression on the steps and results …
SO volunteers can email me if interest and american samoa soon as I get give voice back from Dave, I ‘ll post more information and get person frame-up for the conversion.

I ‘ll credibly order 3 sets of pads in the 93 compound or like for the 1st batch.

-Freak
Treehop Bringing this ribbon back from the dead to confirm the speculations about the master cylinders. I ‘ve taken the plunge, and can now confirm, the SRT8 master cylinder, part number 68048551AA, is indeed different from the sprout R/T one. The yield is bigger. It was a send barter and everything fit all right.

My current brake set-up on my 2010 R/T AWD : SRT8 chief cylinder, stainless steel steel braided brake lines, ATE superblue brake fluid, drilled rotors, EBC Bluestuff pads, patrol package rear rotors

I have n’t amply broken in the brakes even, but sol far the brakes are superintendent stiffly. It ‘s actually harder to brake than earlier because I have to ever therefore gently tap the brakes for them to bite. I ‘m afraid if I step on them 50 % I ‘ll go through the windshield … I will report back once the brakes have settled, but so far I am loving it. I besides see that cipher has posted any reviews on the bluestuff, which is supposed to be a longer survive yellowstuff, so I ‘ll be the guinea pig bed for that adenine well.

If anyone with an AWD or an R/T is looking to do the police rotor upgrade, make indisputable to do the overcome cylinder at the like meter .
The Blur I have n’t in full broken in the brakes even, but so army for the liberation of rwanda the brakes are superintendent cadaver. It ‘s actually harder to brake than earlier because I have to always so gently tap the brakes for them to bite. I ‘m afraid if I step on them 50 % I ‘ll go through the windshield … I will report spinal column once the brakes have settled, but then far I am loving it. I besides see that cipher has posted any reviews on the bluestuff, which is supposed to be a longer survive yellowstuff, so I ‘ll be the wop devour for that a well.

If anyone with an AWD or an R/T is looking to do the patrol rotor upgrade, make surely to do the master cylinder at the same time.

Did you ever think that Dodge engineered the boastful bear MC to match the bigger calipers, and other parts of the bigger brake arrangement ? Which is the reason nowadays you may plant your confront into the windshield .
MattRobertson I besides see that cipher has posted any reviews on the bluestuff, which is supposed to be a longer permanent yellowstuff, so I ‘ll be the guinea bull for that angstrom well.

Actually EBC Blue Stuff has gotten a capital deal of attention here, largely before it was released because a few guys on here were separate of the market screen of the product. I was discussing getting a determined with them late in the examination phase but the stars did n’t line up right with my traverse schedule and their precede time requirements.

Which worked out OK. At the end of the procedure EBC reformulated the pad and biased it towards lower-weight cars. What was once a pad that seemed to be arrant for road run use in a earth with very few options for such heavy cars became a diggings that was no long recommended by the mfr for handling the weight unit of our cars. On path.

All that was some years ago so its probably not the easiest matter to search for. I would consider blue stuff to be ace aggressive for the street, but you are going to be deciding that for yourself it sounds like : – )

If anyone with an AWD or an R/T is looking to do the police rotor upgrade, make sure to do the passkey cylinder at the same time. I need to go over this screw thread and see what benefit this could give me. What did that MC run you and where did you get it ?

edit : What size was the behave ? Is it 1 ” ?

so IF YOU SEE THIS DAVE … I WANT TO SEND YOU SOME MONEY … ! ! ! Yo Freak if you are still wanting this promethium me and I ‘ll rattle Dave ‘s batting cage .
Treehop A few weeks into the ebc bluestuff and I am dealing with squeeling at broken speeds … Gon na take it in to get it looked at and re-grease the contact parts. I guess with such an aggressive slog, some noise is to be expected … I have less than 1000km on them, and I drove it very lightly at first to get a thoroughly touch plot and bedded them in once, but the weather up here has n’t been the best to re-bed. I like the stopping exponent, but not the noise.

The MC ran me about CDN $ 150 after all the shipping and material, I used moparpartsamerica.com. I never measured the yield, but I did compare it side by english to the stock MC, and it was slightly bigger. I ca n’t objectively say what remainder the MC made because I did rotors, pads and a fluid change at the same time. become from the stock DOT3 fluids to the DOT4 superblue fluids. I figured since the hale fluid was getting changed, so it was the perfective time to try the MC trade. The pedal palpate is super cadaver, right from the getgo and stays ceaseless even after repeated heavy brake. I already had the stainless steel sword lines, so that would n’t be a factor in the change in stiffness. overall, I am very quenched with the brake, minus the squeeling … If bluestuff is always gon na have a squeal, I would go with redstuff. I hear after the brake in, they have no squeal.

Actually EBC Blue Stuff has gotten a bang-up cover of care here, by and large before it was released because a few guys on here were share of the market test of the merchandise. I was discussing getting a specify with them late in the test phase but the stars did n’t line up right with my track schedule and their jumper cable clock time requirements.

Which worked out OK. At the end of the procedure EBC reformulated the pad and biased it towards lower-weight cars. What was once a launching pad that seemed to be perfect for road path consumption in a earth with identical few options for such heavy cars became a pad that was no long recommended by the mfr for handling the burden of our cars. On lead.

All that was some years ago so its probably not the easiest thing to search for. I would consider blue thrust to be superintendent aggressive for the street, but you are going to be deciding that for yourself it sounds like : – )

I need to go over this screw thread and see what benefit this could give me. What did that MC run you and where did you get it ?

edit : What size was the bear ? Is it 1 ” ?

Yo Freak if you are still wanting this prime minister me and I ‘ll rattle Dave ‘s cage .
MattRobertson Yeah you should expect noise from a hello temp pad driven on the street. Thats typical of a lead pad run under its engage temp. I ‘ve heard people complain of squeal with Red Stuff … You ‘ll just have to try them and see. I ‘d consider going front axle only … you should be able to tell the difference between front and back squeal.

If you do try to lube to shut them up, try this stuff :

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Permatex green disk lube/quiet. I have used it with spectacular results. It is besides the first gear and merely merchandise of this nature I have ever used therefore for all I know its nothing extra. But for some argue I had in truth bad brake confess originate with my rear pads and respective months ago I bought an 8 oz bottle for $ 12 and lubed everything possible. Has n’t made a sound since .
shocknawful oh, one was n’t doubting you. I barely found the design a moment eldritch. possibly since cruisers are normally loaded with extra equipment in the trunk the larger rear brakes can get more work done.
Yep, that ‘s precisely the case. Cops these days haul a lot of gear in their proboscis. That ‘s why indeed many departments are switching to SUVs. I ‘d bet a lot of cops have 200+ pounds of electronics and equipment in the rear of their cruiser. Hence the larger rise brakes …
done Yep, that ‘s precisely the case. Cops these days haul a fortune of gearing in their torso. That ‘s why so many departments are switching to SUVs. I ‘d bet a distribute of cops have 200+ pounds of electronics and equipment in the back of their cruiser. Hence the larger rear brakes …

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So what would you do to the brakes if you were carrying 3 early adults in the cable car ? Do you very think 200 pound is a big distribute ?
Rottyfan Bringing this screw thread second from the dead to confirm the speculations about the dominate cylinders. I ‘ve taken the dip, and can immediately confirm, the SRT8 master cylinder, share count 68048551AA, is indeed different from the stock certificate R/T one. The bear is bigger. It was a send trade and everything match fine.

My current brake set-up on my 2010 R/T AWD : SRT8 maestro cylinder, stainless steel steel braided brake lines, ATE superblue brake fluid, drilled rotors, EBC Bluestuff pads, police package rise rotors

I have n’t in full broken in the brakes so far, but so far the brakes are ace stiff. It ‘s actually harder to brake than ahead because I have to always so lightly tap the brakes for them to bite. I ‘m afraid if I step on them 50 % I ‘ll go through the windshield … I will report binding once the brakes have settled, but therefore far I am loving it. I besides see that cipher has posted any reviews on the bluestuff, which is supposed to be a longer permanent yellowstuff, so I ‘ll be the guinea devour for that a well.

If anyone with an AWD or an R/T is looking to do the patrol rotor upgrade, make indisputable to do the maestro cylinder at the same prison term.

Thanks for posting this. I searched the part number and it looks like that master cylinder is used for the police software on 2010 and up LXs. How arduous was the install and did you have any problems bleeding the arrangement ?
Treehop Thanks for posting this. I searched the function count and it looks like that master cylinder is used for the police package on 2010 and up LXs. How hard was the install and did you have any problems bleeding the organization ?

Yep. They changed the share numbers in 08.
06-08 : 68033788AA
09-10 : 68048551AA

I did n’t do the install myself. AdamC from authentic performance did it. It did n’t look ampere complicated as I thought it was going to be. He took the wipers off, and the breed, and unbolted the erstwhile MC. All the lines ballyhoo right into the raw one and it ‘s a lineal barter. Took a batch of bicycle pumping to bleed out the previous fluids and see the newfangled one, but thats why I went with superblue, so you can see when the fluids change color. Seems like a good mod to do at the lapp prison term when you are changing the brake fluid and the rotors and pads, adenine well as the police box rotor upgrade … and the braided steel lines
Rottyfan Yep. They changed the function numbers in 08.
06-08 : 68033788AA
09-10 : 68048551AA

I did n’t do the install myself. AdamC from authentic performance did it. It did n’t look deoxyadenosine monophosphate complicated as I thought it was going to be. He took the wipers off, and the cover, and unbolted the old MC. All the lines plug good into the new one and it ‘s a direct swap. Took a batch of pedal pumping to bleed out the honest-to-god fluids and see the new one, but thats why I went with superblue, so you can see when the fluids change discolor. Seems like a adept mod to do at the same time when you are changing the brake fluid and the rotors and pads, angstrom well as the police package rotor upgrade … and the braided steel lines

The problem with me doing it is I know just enough to get into perturb : ) I ‘m going to wait until it gets a little warm before I try this. So far I have rotors and the police package brackets. I need to get the stainless steel brake lines, pads, and the new chief cylinder and I ‘ll be good to go.

I ‘m besides going to get the workbench hemophiliac tool. This youtube video recording makes it looks reasonably accomplishable

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hylander6361 A few weeks into the ebc bluestuff and I am dealing with squeeling at broken speeds … Gon na take it in to get it looked at and re-grease the contact parts. I guess with such an aggressive pad, some noise is to be expected … I have less than 1000km on them, and I drove it very gently at first to get a good touch patch and bedded them in once, but the weather astir here has n’t been the best to re-bed. I like the stopping ability, but not the randomness.

The MC ran me about CDN $ 150 after all the embark and stuff, I used moparpartsamerica.com. I never measured the bear, but I did compare it side by english to the stock MC, and it was slenderly bigger. I ca n’t objectively say what dispute the MC made because I did rotors, pads and a fluid change at the same time. go from the stock DOT3 fluids to the DOT4 superblue fluids. I figured since the whole fluent was getting changed, so it was the perfect time to try the MC trade. The pedal feel is super besotted, right from the getgo and stays changeless tied after repeated big brake. I already had the stainless steel sword lines, so that would n’t be a factor in the deepen in stiffness. overall, I am identical satisfy with the brake, minus the squeeling … If bluestuff is constantly gon na have a squeal, I would go with redstuff. I hear after the brake in, they have no confess.

treehop, will the patrol MC work on my 2011 ? one looked but couldnt find anything conclusive, besides i notice there are options BR3-BR9 which one is the right one ? besides ive been asking this motion alot so if anyone on here knows, will the EBC sport track pack rotors ( which are the lapp 13.8 ” defense intelligence agency. ) work the same as the police software rotors with the correct arranger brackets ?

and speaking of the arranger brackets is there a bequeath and right compensate sides ? or are they the same ? one ask because some sites sell them as LH and RH but some fair sell the bracket and doesnt clarify
hylander6361 so after much research and a long night at work one found that the super trak pack from EBC for the rear rotors are the same as the patrol ones. would be nice if EBC listed the thickness of their rotors off the bat ill be pairing them with ebc red stuff pads goodridge stainless lines and ebc 307+ dot 4 fluid nowadays i fair need to buy the brackets. online sites kill with embark i wonder if i can find a better price at the local franchise
Treehop You will have to ask the parts guy at a franchise with your vin, which BR package your car comes with. I do n’t know if they ‘ve changed anything in 2011+. I know for the beginning gen, my RT came with BR5 ( as confirmed by the franchise ) so I was able to swap with the BR8 victor cylinder.

The caliper brackets/adapters are the same for leave and right field. Just get 2 of them. I got mine on-line somewhere for around $ 75 each.

treehop, will the patrol MC work on my 2011 ? one looked but couldnt find anything conclusive, besides one notice there are options BR3-BR9 which one is the right one ? besides ive been asking this question alot so if anyone on here knows, will the EBC sport track pack rotors ( which are the lapp 13.8 ” defense intelligence agency. ) work the same as the patrol package rotors with the adjust arranger brackets ?

and talk of the arranger brackets is there a left and right compensate sides ? or are they the lapp ? one ask because some sites sell them as LH and RH but some merely sell the bracket and doesnt clarify
hylander6361 just wanted to update … the ace track backpack rotors from EBC will not fit. thunderbolt pattern is different, im assuming that is because they have a unlike knuckle … one cursed my dominate there .
BlackAce I ‘m gon na bring this thread back from the dead.

So after reading this is it safe to say that AWD and R/T ‘s use the same front brakes as the police software but police software uses better front and rear pads and besides the raise brakes are bigger ? The part number for the rear bracket is 5175065AB and uses the like calipers ?

now it ‘s besides suggested to replace the chief cylinder when doing this upgrade with the larger hold size and the contribution total for that is 68048551AA.

Seems to be a lot dear information bedspread out through the pages .
hylander6361 No the awd and patrol package have the same battlefront rotors the RT has a slenderly smaller battlefront rotor ( if I remember correctly ) the rears are the same on rt and awd and patrol package and road and track compact are slenderly unlike .
DJX I did this upgrade for my 2013 R/T AWD.
This is the BR8 brake box.

For the late 2014 models there is besides a BR9 box which has bigger brakes all around.
That is front and raise rotors/calipers/pads.

For the BR8 package :
The AWD front calipers/rotors are the same as the police package, so if you are AWD, you are done up front.
The rear rotors are bigger in the police software but the caliper is the same so you good need different caliper brackets.
The front and rear pads are different but you can credibly get better aftermarket pads.

now, the master cylinder.
I replaced mine precisely to be certain but I ‘m 99 % sure that the cylinder was the lapp size.
I think it might have been smaller in the older class models but I ‘m 99 % sure it ‘s the lapp size if you are already AWD .
Treehop For the foremost gen AWD ‘s, I know the BR5 and the BR8 master cylinders are different. When I upgraded the stock one on my 2010 AWD with the SRT8/police one, I compared em side by side. The bear was larger on the SRT .
BlackAce For the first gen AWD ‘s, I know the BR5 and the BR8 dominate cylinders are unlike. When I upgraded the stock one on my 2010 AWD with the SRT8/police one, I compared em side by side. The wear was larger on the SRT.

Do you know the separate act ?
Treehop 68048551AA for the SRT8 master cylinder.

I heard they changed something in the master cylinders around 2008, so you should look up the part count according to your year/model : www.moparonlineparts.com ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.moparonlineparts.com )
WhiteAWDsport What precisely would be needed to do a arrant br9 swap on a 2014 AWD rt ?

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DJX There was a post on hera from a re-seller, moparonlineparts.com, about putting together a BR9 kit out for us 2011-2014 folks.
I know that they were working with at least one individual to get together a parts number.
Looking on their site, I do n’t see that kit out ( merely the BR8 kit ) so I ‘m guessing they never got a whole list of parts.
But I know it exists from searching parts sites and referencing the sales code BR9.
late model 2014 pastime cars got the BR9 which includes at the very minimal : Bigger Front and Rear Rotors/Calipers/Brackets .
WhiteAWDsport I ‘ll have to see if building a kit is something they are calm doing. Id be very interested in doing the upgrade I would just need a list of all the parts and their cost.

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DJX Let us know if you get anywhere with it .
351Freak GUYS …

Waste money if you want on the bigger overlord cylinder … but I ‘ve been running the SRT rotors on the front/rear with the patrol brackets out back for years now … stock R/T passkey cylinder … never a trouble … pedal point was never cadaver …

It ‘s not cadaver … because its a smaller bore … and requires less effort to get like pounds per square inch on the brake lines … and since the book of the calipers did n’t change importantly … THERE ‘S NO VALID REASON TO GO DICKING WITH THE MASTER CYLINDER … ! ! !

Let the ABS do its caper … it works absolutely fine … been there, done that … created the kits to make it happen … ! ! !

-Freak
Crownroyal79 GUYS …

Waste money if you want on the bigger master cylinder … but I ‘ve been running the SRT rotors on the front/rear with the police brackets out back for years now … stock R/T master cylinder … never a problem … pedal was never stiff …

It ‘s not potent … because its a smaller hold … and requires less feat to get lapp psi on the brake lines … and since the volume of the calipers did n’t change significantly … THERE ‘S NO VALID REASON TO GO DICKING WITH THE MASTER CYLINDER … ! ! !

Let the ABS do its occupation … it works perfectly very well … been there, done that … created the kits to make it happen … ! ! !

-Freak

What are these kits you speak of ?
7TCUDA Will the BR9 software fit the 2011 ‘s vitamin a good ? I thought I read somewhere that the 2015 ‘s had a significant brake upgrade but possibly that was the BR9.
I have been eyeing the modern Hellcat rotors … now that would be a nice promote ! now I entirely need to “ borrow ” a set for a few days of mock-up.

Right now I have besides many projects on the go to get at my working brakes, but I do want to have my parts order ready .
DJX Yes, the BR9 should fit a 2015 AWD american samoa well.
good luck mocking anything else up.
I think entirely one guy on these forums ever got actually big brakes installed on his AWD.
He fabricated the parts to mount a Wilwood.
Does n’t help the respite of us who ca n’t fabricate parts but reasonably cool none the less .
Crownroyal79 I will tell you the rotors are f’ing huge ! ! Fronts are 14.5 and the rears 13.8 ! ! I ‘m waiting on the parts to come in since I ordered all BR9 brake parts. I ‘ll be doing a write up if everything works. so far I believe I ‘ve spent around 800 bucks plus or subtraction.

*edit* I ‘m putting these on a 2015 Rallye 3.6 .
DJX We never got a parts list for the BR9 kit.
I know it includes a larger overlord cylinder this time for indisputable.
Besides that, I take it it ‘s everything from the calipers themselves to the rotors ?
Crownroyal79 Calipers i ‘m not sure. Some sites say that the caliper is the lapp as an R/T its fair the bracket that is taller to clear the rotor. I did n’t have any R/T calipers so I needed to decree them any how .
DJX What car and brake sales code are you presently at ?
I have a 2013 R/T that came with BR5 and I upgraded to the BR8 sales code .
Crownroyal79 presently 2015 Charger Rallye edition, brake code ? not sure but it came with solid rear rotors and 2wd. From the research I ‘ve done looking a every charger locate out there, calipers can be swaped from R/T to SE/SXT american samoa long as you have the brackets. You need knuckles when you get into the SRT brakes .
DJX 2WD ?
This is for AWD folks.

If you look at your build sheet ( or email Chrysler for it ) all your sales codes and equipment are listed.
For model :

BGES Brake Assist
BHCS Rain Brake Support
BHDS Ready Alert Braking
BNBS Electronic Stability Control
BNGS Hill Start Assist
BNPP All Speed Traction Control
BPTS Hydraulic Assist Brake Booster
BR5S Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Perf Brakes
BTBP All Vehicles w/ABS Brakes
Crownroyal79 so yea I know this is an AWD section, but other than the “ hole ” for the drive shaft, I do n’t believe dodge/fiat would make a wholly different mounting placement for the calipers. I could be wholly amiss excessively, good do n’t see the logic in it. besides I checked the separate numbers again and they are not different from AWD to 2WD Police model.

I forgot to look at my sales sticker one ‘ll try to get out and take a look and get back to you .
DJX possibly you ‘re right field but I ‘m pretty indisputable the caliper bracket is different at least.
For one, the AWD calipers mount in the front.
Someone else please chime in.
I ‘ve constantly been told that you can not just bolt on Brembos to an AWD car then I ‘m assuming something is unlike .
Crownroyal79 possibly you ‘re right but I ‘m reasonably certain the caliper bracket is different at least.
For one, the AWD calipers mount in the battlefront.
Someone else please chime in.
I ‘ve always been told that you can not just bolt on Brembos to an AWD car so I ‘m assuming something is different.

Ahh I did not know they mounted in the presence, thus yea that could be different. Yes you are correct Brembo ‘s are a cavalry of a different coloring material as you need the front and rear knuckles since the mounting points are wholly different. I am not using brembo ‘s though, I ordered the BR9 bracken specific parts because I did n’t want to have to deal with trying to find “ good ” knuckles or worry if they were possibly in accidents and bend. Worse comes to worse and it does n’t work and I ‘ll sell everything and merely save for either a BAER or willwood kit out .
DJX I barely used Brembos as an example.
I was n’t sure that the BR9 software was evening for RWD but thinking about it now, I do n’t see why it would n’t be ampere well.
I ‘m indisputable at least the caliper bracket is different for AWD.
I ‘m assuming you got the RWD brackets ?
Crownroyal79 Yes, everything, the brackets and calipers. even bought the template pivot kits arsenic well barely to be safe. The contribution numbers are the same for both AWD/RWD .
DJX When you get a gamble.
Could you post a complete parts list with short description ?
Crownroyal79 Front brakes parts list.
68245095AA
Caliper

68245094AA
Caliper

68245117AA
Adapter-Disc Brake Caliper

68245116AA
Pin-Disc Brake

Raybestos SP1767PPH pads ( Rockauto )

Raybestos 781774P
Front Rotors ( Rockauto )

Rear parts
68245123AB
Adapter-Disc Brake Caliper ( rear )

Raybestos 780395
Rear rotor

*Note- I did not find anything stating that the rise caliper was any different other than the tall mounting bracket. When they come in, if they don ’ thymine bring I ’ ll update with the character number*
Crownroyal79 precisely an update. I just did get the front brackets and calipers yesterday. I ‘ll be test fitting everything this weekend and one ‘m hush waiting on the rear brackets, hopefully they will ship out today but I will update once they come in besides .
DJX Thanks for the update.
unfortunately, since your RWD this does n’t very help us AWD guys .
Todd TCE As a english eminence : We can do 14.25 and even 15 ” Wilwood kits for the front deoxyadenosine monophosphate well as 14.25 rears …

Just another options. Yes, I know they cost more money … but hey ; what well farce does n’t ! lol
DJX $ 3580, wow
What is unlike on the 2014 kit that you do n’t offer it AWD ?
Crownroyal79 indeed after fighting with the yellow screw thread locker the factory placed on the bolts ( about hour, no vent tools ) the BR9 caliper bracket bolted right up. I did n’t go any further but the dust carapace might need to be replaced or modified to clear the 14.5 rotor but I ‘ll up date on that once I get there.

The rear brackets apparently are on back order so I ‘m stuck wait.

Yes one I know this is an AWD train of thought but like I said, if the the situation of the caliper is the only difference then it should work. I do n’t see Fiat/Dodge making a wholly different caliper bracket for the AWD platform. possibly person can get some measurements of the AWD dash holes and we can at least confirm that much .
Todd TCE $ 3580, wow
What is different on the 2014 kit out that you do n’t offer it AWD ?

The AWD kits are TCE built specific. The Wilwood factory kits will not work.

TCE was the developer of ALL these kits going back to about 2007 and we addressed the AWD back then. late when Wilwood took over production of our kits they glossed over the AWD market as being besides small. While we still offer it..yes it is pretty minimal. deplorably when we can sell you a front man kit alone for a RWD car for about $ 1800 it costs that alone or more in parts to produce it in small qty before we are able to make any profit. *The doctrine of analogy being of course we can not compete with our own supplier.

I do n’t believe the 14 is different but I ‘m not cerain. We just did n’t list it in the table. If you have a 14 and you ‘re concern I ‘d like to work with you to verify some things up front however as there are some changes on the RWD cars up front for that class. I ‘m confident we can make something work..might take a couple test fits is all .
Todd TCE Yes iodine I know this is an AWD thread but like I said, if the the position of the caliper is the only deviation then it should work. I do n’t see Fiat/Dodge making a wholly different caliper bracket for the AWD platform. possibly person can get some measurements of the AWD bolt holes and we can at least confirm that much.

I can tell you with certainty that you can not take a BBK bracket and caliper off the RWD and plainly flip it over for the AWD knuckle. If you could we ‘d merely supply the lapp Wilwood front kit but alter the bleeders on the calipers for correct orientation to change it. Wo n’t exercise .
Crownroyal79 I can not speak to a bbk bracket since we are talking about Dodges BR9 spec brake software, but I dissagree factory wise since there there is no leave or right bracket orientation course. I besides saw an AWD while on vacation and the caliper sits at the 2 o’clock position thus again you would not “ somersault ” the bracket. Either way no matchless will know if things work until you try. I fair did receive my rear brackets right before I left therefore when I get back I ‘m going to be fitting those .
DJX I precisely wanted to get together a parts list to overhaul the BR8 brake package on my 2013 AWD.
I need to replace my wear out brakes/rotors.

Can anyone confirm these part numbers ?

Front Rotors : 4779197AG
buttocks Rotors : 4779438AG

immediately, I need part numbers for the Front and Rear pads.
I ‘d like to go after marketplace.
I ‘m thinking EBC Yellow stuff.
Can anyone lend a hand with the part numbers ?
How do I know what pads will fit the larger rear rotors ?

Thanks .
The Blur I have a 2010 AWD R/T. 100 % stock with the exception of 19 ” wheels.
I need front rotors & pads. Daily driver, driven by a 25 yo female. This car eats front rotors every 10,000 miles. They warp so regretful, the entire car shimmies under braking.

I checked on-line, and see no particular list for AWD rotors. I do n’t mind upgrade brackets, rotors, or pads, but it must be for a feminist casual driver.

What can you recommend ?
DJX What brake package ?
For the BR8 bracken software here are the StopTech parts I got :

Front Left Rotor : 126.63061CSL
Front Right Rotor : 126.63061CSR
Rear Left Rotor : 126.63065CSL
Rear Right Rotor : 126.63065CSR

Front Pads : 309.10580
rear Pads : 309.10571
The Blur I ‘m looking at rockauto. Most rotors are listed for 2006-2016. So it ‘s hard to tell what the differences are. Where is the dagger that indicates what brake box I have ?
DJX
They replied with an email that had all my options and prefixed to all the options was the sales code.
For Example:

BNBS Electronic Stability Control
BNGS Hill Start Assist
BNPP All Speed Traction Control
BPTS Hydraulic Assist Brake Booster
BR5S Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Perf Brakes
BTBP All Vehicles w/ABS Brakes
CBDS Active Head Restraints
CFNS Rear 60/40 Folding Seat
See, the BR5 brake code?
There are many brake sales codes and they require different parts.
The parts I listed above are for the BR8 brake code that has 13.6” rotors up front and 13.8” rotors in the rear. I sent an electronic mail to : [ e-mail protected ] and asked them for my Window Sticker.They replied with an e-mail that had all my options and prefixed to all the options was the sales code.For case : BNBS Electronic Stability ControlBNGS Hill Start AssistBNPP All Speed Traction ControlBPTS Hydraulic Assist Brake BoosterBR5S Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Perf BrakesBTBP All Vehicles w/ABS BrakesCBDS Active Head RestraintsCFNS Rear 60/40 Folding SeatSee, the BR5 bracken code ? There are many brake sales codes and they require unlike parts.The parts I listed above are for the BR8 brake code that has 13.6 ” rotors up battlefront and 13.8 ” rotors in the rear .
The Blur If the upgrade brake pads are excessively compact, then the caliper must be a different width. There is no other reason, unless the new bracket hop on tabs are offset one way or the other .
DJX Between the BR5 and BR8 brake package are bigger rotors in the rear.
Those are winder and thick.
So the rear pads need to be slightly thinner.
You besides need a successor caliper bracket to outer space the caliper further out so it will clear the 13.8 rear rotors .
The Blur I ‘m thinking along the years, Dodge upgraded the brakes, and most of the people above did n’t list the model or year they were upgrading. My battlefront OEM rotors look pretty large, and the car is a 2010 R/T AWD .
The Blur I checked my window dagger, and factory ordering sheets when I ordered the car in 2009. No brake software codes anywhere … .
mulely Okay, so I have a 14 rwd R/T. The breed rear calipers do NOT fit over the dense rear magnetic disk. Tried and failed last saturday.

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DJX You merely need the rear caliper brackets to clear the 13.8 ” back rotor :
2 x 5175065AD
mulely From another forum :
Front BR9 Components :
ROTOR-BRAKE
Part # : 68184337AA

CALIPER-DISC BRAKE
Part # : 68245095AA

CALIPER-DISC BRAKE
Part # : 68245094AA

PAD KIT-FRONT DISC BRAKE
Part # : 68245089AA

Rear BR9 code components :

ROTOR-BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 4779438AF
List Price : $ 143.00
Your price : $ 98.67 x2

CALIPER-DISC BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 68245291AA
List Price : $ 185.00
Your price : $ 127.65

CALIPER-DISC BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 68245290AA
List Price : $ 185.00
Your price : $ 127.65

ADAPTER-DISC BRAKE CALIPER
Make : Dodge | Part # : 68245123AA
List Price : $ 62.10
Your price : $ 42.84 x2

PAD KIT-REAR DISC BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 68245118AA
List Price : $ 152.00
Your monetary value : $ 104.77

LINE-BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 4779451AH
List Price : $ 30.85
Your price : $ 21.28

LINE-BRAKE
Make : Dodge | Part # : 4779450AE
List Price : $ 31.85
Your monetary value : $ 21.97

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DJX That ‘s for BR9.
I was talking about BR8 .
mulely well shoot lol.😂 I bad lol. Carry on !

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Treehop The 2010 AWD R/T came with the BR5 brake package. Front rotor and pad size are the lapp for all R/T ‘s. The rear can be upgraded to the BR8 package with the larger rotor and caliper brackets. If you wish to complete the package, the master cylinder can be upgraded to the BR8 size besides ( SRT/Police )
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7TCUDA I have the 2011 Charger AWD RT MAX and just completed the BR5 to BR9 upgrade. Oh wait, I was just reminded that this is the wife ‘s car … I have the RAM.
Calipers and mounts WERE REQUIRED movement and rear. They are not loaded and you must get the pin kits and
right rise brake channel was required as the BR5 one has an “ auricle ” that interfered with the BR9 caliper. evening then, it is shorter than I like. At wax sag it is not tight, but another 1/2 ” longer would sure have been courteous.
You must besides drill out the front knuckle to 9/16 and buy the larger mount bolts for the front caliper brackets.

Front brakes parts list.
68245095AA CALIPER ( BR5 / BR6 / BR9 )
68245094AA CALIPER ( BR5 / BR6 / BR9 )
68245117AA CALIPER ADAPTER ( battlefront ) Need 2
06510853AA CALIPER TO KNUCKLE MOUNT BOLTS ( Bigger than 2011 ) M14 x 1.5 ten 45 ( Need 4 )
68245116AA PIN-DISK BRAKE Need 2 kits ( one for each side ) Make certain you get the boots/seals besides.
POWER STOP AR83092XPR Extreme Performance Rotors
POWER STOP Z23-1767 Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads

Rear parts
68245123AB CALIPER ADAPTER ( rear ) Need 2
68245291AA CALIPER-DISC BRAKE LEFT ( REQUIRED identical unlike than BR5 )
68245290AA CALIPER-DISC BRAKE RIGHT ( REQUIRED identical different than BR5 )
68245288AA PIN-DISK BRAKE Need 2 kits ( one for each side ). Make indisputable you get the boots/seals excessively.
04779450AF ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/__/HOSE-Right-Brake-Rear/10703772/04779450AF.html ) HOSE RIGHT BRAKE REAR ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/__/HOSE-Right-Brake-Rear/10703772/04779450AF.html ) ( REQUIRED ) But still on the short side.
04779451AH ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/__/HOSE-Left-Brake-Rear/10697809/04779451AH.html ) HOSE LEFT BRAKE REAR ( hypertext transfer protocol : //www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/__/HOSE-Right-Brake-Rear/10703772/04779450AF.html ) ( optional – I did not use )
POWER STOP AR8371XPR Extreme Performance Rotors
POWER STOP Z23-1766 Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads

I will probably change out the brake dominate cylinder as the pedal locomotion is a bit on the long side, but it is acceptable.

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